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Tony Arcieri

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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
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Joined May 2007

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    Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 11 Jan 2015

    This is how Telegram expects you to compare key fingerprints. WAT?pic.twitter.com/OPxet1Ul3R

    10:17 AM - 11 Jan 2015
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      2. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        "your chat is 200% secure."

        5 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
      3. Melissa  💫‏ @0xabad1dea 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        .@bascule that’s how you can tell the software is secure, the UI text is casually flippant about it

        3 replies 2 retweets 8 likes
      4. Canageek‏ @Canageek 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @0xabad1dea

        @0xabad1dea @bascule ..........I'm not sure which is more horrifying: The lack of math by someone trying to do encryption, or the lack of

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @Canageek

        @Canageek @0xabad1dea funny thing is they originally claimed their crypto expertise came from them being "maths PhDs"

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Canageek‏ @Canageek 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @0xabad1dea Maths is the British term for it, so that itself isn't crazy. Still, 200%?

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Dorian Taylor‏ @doriantaylor 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @timbray hah I considered something like that in ~2009-10: http://doriantaylor.com/key-continuity-for-kindergarteners … off the cuff (better: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/mjs/ftp/thesis-program/2004/tay,evelyn.pdf … )

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @doriantaylor

        @doriantaylor @timbray I don't like visual fingerprint comparisons if only because I think it's easier for humans to compare words

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Dorian Taylor‏ @doriantaylor 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @timbray hence linking to @dakami's '06 talk where he talks about hash-generated narratives (https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/lisa06/tech/slides/kaminsky.pdf … )

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      5. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @doriantaylor

        @doriantaylor @bascule @timbray see also http://ryanc.org/mnemonic/demo2.html … 80bits order independent (still under development)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @dakami

        @dakami @doriantaylor @timbray 12 words instead of 5 words for another 20-bits entropy... it's a security/UX tradeoff

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @doriantaylor @timbray yeah, we lose lots of bits modeling user failure modes.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @dakami

        @dakami @doriantaylor @timbray FWIW @agl__ is doing something similar in Pond

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      1. Nikita “Running 10 mins late” Borisov‏ @nikitab 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        200% secure! “@bascule: This is how Telegram expects you to compare key fingerprints. WAT? pic.twitter.com/JQKp3ECFlH”

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      1. Justin Troutman‏ @justintroutman 11 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule Perhaps the copywriter was a bartender in a past life, and meant 200 proof.

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      1. Sam Schinke‏ @sschinke 11 Jan 2015
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        @bascule @matthew_d_green Any encryption that doesn't use dirty limericks to compare keys isn't encryption I want to use.

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      1. codename: WOLFDALE‏ @demize95 11 Jan 2015
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        @bascule @matthew_d_green TWO HUNDRED PERCENT SECURE

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      1. John Mark Schofield‏ @schof 11 Jan 2015
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        @bascule @timbray I learned everything I need to know about Telegram from "your chat is 200% secure." Nope nope nope nope nope nope.

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      1. Michal Belica‏ @beli_sk 12 Jan 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @matthew_d_green Dont get it. So you describe what's in the pic to the other party over phone? I see a swan? LOL

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