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Tony Arcieri

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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
tonyarcieri.com
Joined May 2007

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    Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Oct 2014

    Anyone who says "just use stunnel" as a solution for Redis SSL probably hasn't spent a lot of time dealing with stunnel

    3:51 PM - 7 Oct 2014
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      2. ANTIREZ‏ @antirez 8 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule I believe now there are better options finally: http://www.tarsnap.com/spiped.html 

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 8 Oct 2014
        Replying to @antirez

        @antirez doesn't cover all of our use cases (e.g. key rotation)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. ANTIREZ‏ @antirez 8 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule if there are good, self contained SSL libs, it is to reconsider. Or could be an opt-in feature off by default using just OpenSSL.

        4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 8 Oct 2014
        Replying to @antirez

        @antirez OpenSSL support gated on a compile-time flag would be awesome! There are forks with it already:https://github.com/bbroerman30/ssl-redis …

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Logan Attwood‏ @halifaxbeard 10 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @portertech what issues?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Oct 2014
        Replying to @halifaxbeard

        @loganattwood @portertech managing multiple services, startup order, key rotation, creating 1:1 certs and truststores

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Logan Attwood‏ @halifaxbeard 10 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @portertech or this?https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-stunnel/blob/master/README.md …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Oct 2014
        Replying to @halifaxbeard

        @loganattwood @portertech we don't use puppet. We have an S2S CA. Using stunnel means stunnel'd services can't use our S2S CA

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Andrew Cantino‏ @tectonic 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule what are the downsides of a SSH tunnel?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @tectonic

        @tectonic for unattended, automated services? Authentication and key rotation come to mind...

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Andrew Cantino‏ @tectonic 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule but interested in your perspective if that's a bad idea

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @tectonic

        @tectonic we use firewall zones and mutual TLS for that purpose

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. mik‏ @mik235 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule I looked at every data processing/log collection solution out there, and none that I found were anywhere near secure

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @mik235

        @mik235 haha yeah, unfortunately many seem to fall into the "insecure... for speed" category :(

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. mik‏ @mik235 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule although for the server side, stunnel isn't necessarily worse than a bungled attempt to use libssl...

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. John Downey‏ @jtdowney 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule I've seen decent results with spiped. I prefer it far more than stunnel.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @jtdowney

        @jtdowney I've been eyeing spiped, but from what I can tell it doesn't support key rotation...

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. John Downey‏ @jtdowney 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule just run a new one side by side and configure your client to connect to the new port

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      2. Bryan Horstmann-Allen‏ @bdha 7 Oct 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule "Fondly" looking back at running 4-8 stunnnels on each app server, haproxy in front...

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