TCPINC slides: "Securing TCP" (with (D)TLS): https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1oCZ-PY04S403nB2lBGY7OQIaVk1qjFlT5LKG1rv6-Z0/edit#slide=id.p …
@RichSalz one NSA-affiliated participant chastised for his previous IPSEC participation insists "punt to TLS" requires TCPINC null cipher
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@bascule I'm fairly confident that viewpoint will be ignored. -
@RichSalz one can only hope ;). ssldump/ssltap-style tools are the real-world answer to debugging, not a null cipher -
@bascule Yes. NULL ciphers don't help with testing, nor finding bugs and sidechannels in crypto.
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