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Tony Arcieri
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Tony Arcieri

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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
tonyarcieri.com
Joined May 2007

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    1. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014

      @tqbf who knows about the facts but the conversation they started is vitally important, IMO

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    2. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule The conversation can be important and Snowden’s actions in toto can be indefensible at the same time.

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    3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf whistleblower actions should be judged in the context of what they’re blowinv the whistle on, IMHO

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    4. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule I think you confuse your own interests in knowing as much as you can possibly know with public policy/public interest.

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf I sure as fuck think holding the NSA accountable for their many crimes is a much bigger priority than worrying about what Snowden did

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    6. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule You’re missing my point. I’m not saying there aren’t important, valid disclosures, but you argue as if I did.

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    7. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf I'm saying if they're truly valid Snowden is totally and completely irrelevant and immaterial

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    8. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule You asked if any technical people had an argument against Snowden. I start to give one. You say “Snowden is irrelevant”. Huh?

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      Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf this is where I'd say YES. But I'm not sure if you actually agree there was enough evidence NSA crimes pre-Snowden

      5:41 PM - 10 Jan 2014
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        2. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule Unfortunately, he teamed up with a fabulist to disclose them, and publicized foreign ops.

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        3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @tqbf

          @tqbf and I don't care and that's a distraction from the NSA's wrongdoings

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        4. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule Then the original question you asked that started this discussion was profoundly disingenuous and also super annoying. Feel bad.

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        5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @tqbf

          @tqbf I guess I'm making a moral judgment: Is [evil revealed] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [evil in revealing]? If so, latter is justified

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        6. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule Why aren’t you mad at Snowden for releasing distracting data that wasn’t in the public interest?

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        7. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @tqbf

          @tqbf because two other people tried to "do it right" (ish?) and failed in attracting a critical mass of public attention

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        8. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule Huh? So it’s OK to lie, because… wait. I don’t follow that at all. What exactly are you trying to say?

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        9. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @tqbf

          @tqbf I guess I am trying to say there's a gigantic fucking elephant in the room and you're spending a lot of time talking about the mouse

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        2. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule I think there was a lot of evidence pre-Snowden, but that Snowden disclosures of e.g. Vzn metadata were galvanizing.

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        3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
          Replying to @tqbf

          @tqbf yup

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