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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
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    Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014

    Rust is probably the world’s first truly functional-ish language that is actually practical for “bare metal” systems programming

    1:36 PM - 10 Jan 2014
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      2. mith‏ @jrmithdobbs 12 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule does rust have some concept of monads or another pretty/fancy CPS mechanism I forgot?

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 13 Jan 2014
        Replying to @jrmithdobbs

        @jrmithdobbs Rust has monads and things that fill the roles of monads (e.g. Option). It’s also impure…

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      4. mith‏ @jrmithdobbs 13 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule you have some links to examples?

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      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 13 Jan 2014
        Replying to @jrmithdobbs

        @jrmithdobbs https://github.com/mozilla/rust/blob/master/src/test/run-pass/monad.rs …

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      2. A Little Soul Carries A Loji‏ @lojikil 12 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @bitemyapp BCPL, Algol68 short syntax and LML/ZetaLisp would like to have a word with you.

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 12 Jan 2014
        Replying to @lojikil

        @lojikil 2/3 of what you just mentioned are unabashedly imperative languages

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      4. A Little Soul Carries A Loji‏ @lojikil 12 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule Both BCPL and Algol68 had functional-ish expressions: `(int sum := 0; for i to n do sum +:= f(i) od; sum)`

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      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 13 Jan 2014
        Replying to @lojikil

        @lojikil little different from real lambdas/HOFs, or a Hindley-Milner inspired type system

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      2. joegrammer‏ @joefiorini 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @tomdale And the high-level language we build on top of it… *drools*

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @joefiorini

        @joefiorini @tomdale Rust is the most high-level systems programming language I've personally ever seen

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      4. joegrammer‏ @joefiorini 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @tomdale Right, but not totally suitable for web apps.

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      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
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        @joefiorini @tomdale https://twitter.com/bascule/status/421767957316780032 … any questions? (please check timestamps)

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        i would just like to assure Ruby fans as I talk of Rust, type-inference, and dependent types that I’d probably still use Rails for webapps
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      2. Jay Feldblum‏ @yfeldblum 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        . @bascule "truly functional-ish" ... that phrasing conveys no meaning.

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @yfeldblum

        @yfeldblum compiles directly to a native ISA with no runtime: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2013-July/004841.html …

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      2. pacman (///) #eleNão‏ @pac_man 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @jvrmaia how about F# ?

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @pac_man

        @pac_man @jvrmaia I really like F* (F# with dependent types) and TS*

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      2. Tracy Harms‏ @kaleidic 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule I'm eager to figure out whether I can use Rust on tiny machines such as Arduino. I have a lot to learn in that whole area.

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @kaleidic

        @kaleidic in theory it should be great! e.g: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2013-July/004841.html …

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      1. mith‏ @jrmithdobbs 12 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule Haskell. Great ffi for systems stuff. Haven't looked at rust since .4ish but it is definitely nifty.

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      1. Geoffroy Couprie‏ @gcouprie 10 Jan 2014
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule it is also a object-ish language that really makes you think about mutability, which is weird and interesting

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