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Tony Arcieri

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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
tonyarcieri.com
Joined May 2007

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    1. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @KirinDave

      @KirinDave "FP is hard"

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. \reversemathwitch‏ @KirinDave 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule So are pointers.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @KirinDave

      @KirinDave I'm afraid I can't classify the problems with FP in terms of categories and morphisims. Maybe that makes me dumb

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule @kirindave This is a caricature, not a critique.

      3 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @ReinH

      @ReinH @KirinDave the "Lisp weenie" smug is real

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule @kirindave So is the "OO weenie" smug. Why not engage in an actual good-faith dialog instead?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @ReinH

      @ReinH @KirinDave because the FP community is self-assured that OP is shit?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule @kirindave do you not see how ironic this statement is?

      1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
    9. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @ReinH

      @ReinH @KirinDave okay, tell me this: is it possible that OO could actually be better than FP?

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @bascule

      @bascule @kirindave Absolutely, why wouldn't it be? It sounds a lot like you are projecting a dogmatic viewpoint that doesn't always exist.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
      Replying to @ReinH

      @ReinH @KirinDave do you think I dreamed this viewpoint up or can you acknowledge it not only exists but is prevalent in the FP community?

      1:31 PM - 27 Sep 2013
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        2. Michael Xavier‏ @mxavier 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @ReinH @KirinDave As much as I see OOP bashing in FP, I see OOP devs dismissing FP out-of-hand. Neither approach benefits us.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @mxavier

          @mxavier @ReinH @KirinDave once upon a time I made an FP language and just got back from Strange Loop. Does that description fit me?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. \reversemathwitch‏ @KirinDave 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule Reia? Functional?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @KirinDave

          @KirinDave functional has One True Definition, of course. OOP is a totally meaningless and incomprehensible term

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @kirindave Again with this bullshit. Stop trolling. Jesus christ.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Ricardo  🐹 Mendes‏ @locks 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @ReinH

          @ReinH @bascule @KirinDave he's Tony, what are you expecting, really? at least on Twitter.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @locks

          Senior Oops Engineer Retweeted Senior Oops Engineer

          @locks @bascule @kirindavehttps://twitter.com/reinh/status/383696861988519936 …

          Senior Oops Engineer added,

          Senior Oops Engineer @ReinH
          I thought I could have a reasonable conversation with a smart person about a subject they are knowledgeable in. Fuck me right?
          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Ricardo  🐹 Mendes‏ @locks 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @ReinH

          @ReinH @bascule @KirinDave makes one wonder how smart said person is.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        10. End of conversation
        1. New conversation
        2. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @kirindave I acknowledge that it exists. I don't agree that it's worth engaging with if your goal is to teach and learn.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @ReinH

          @bascule @kirindave I also see the same dogma in OO. I just don't think it's useful to engage and prefer to assume good-faith.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @ReinH

          @bascule @kirindave OO and FP can learn from each other if they have a real dialog. Dogma, straw men and caricatures don't help either side.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @ReinH

          @bascule @kirindave I could further argue that there aren't "sides" to begin with and that we're on provably equivalent teams but zzzzz...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Sam Goldman‏ @nontrivialzeros 27 Sep 2013
          Replying to @ReinH

          @ReinH @bascule @KirinDave Indeed. Just need a program to convert OO programs to FP programs and vice versa. That should satisfy everyone!

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. End of conversation

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