@dakami Is it language chauvinism to point out that there are (likely) a lot more unsophisticated JS programmers than any other language?
@dakami @matthew_d_green @maradydd in other words, it should work like NaCl or Keyczar. Current spec is the OpenSSL debacle all over again
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@bascule@matthew_d_green@maradydd You think you get to tell devs what to do. You don't. You can only be useful to them. -
@dakami@matthew_d_green@maradydd I'm saying the spec should have expert cryptographers to make choices so developers don't have to -
@bascule@matthew_d_green@maradydd No, see, you're saying the only thing that should be fast, is what you like. -
@dakami@maradydd *I* don't want to be making those decisions. I want someone like@matthew_d_green making them for me. -
@bascule@maradydd@matthew_d_green We can choose to make existing cryptosystems fast, or only new ones (written to NaCL) -
@dakami@maradydd@matthew_d_green you can do both so long as the API clearly separates what to use for new projects versus legacy interop -
@bascule@maradydd@matthew_d_green Lies we tell ourselves. Make useful things for devs, then make them fast. -
@dakami@bascule@maradydd@matthew_d_green everything can be fast, but the API design should aid the decision-making process - 2 more replies
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@bascule@matthew_d_green@maradydd You can accelerate NaCL with the current spec. All that really matters. -
@dakami@matthew_d_green@bascule BTW, talked with@wseltzer today, who said best thing to do re w3c process is propose an alternative spec -
@maradydd@dakami@matthew_d_green@wseltzer solution: take current spec and partition it into "WebCrypto" versus legacy/unsafe extras -
@bascule@dakami@matthew_d_green@zooko@wseltzer I agree, let's do that then. -
@maradydd@dakami@matthew_d_green@zooko@wseltzer in the end I think this argument is all about namespacing - 1 more reply
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