@davetron5000 @boulderdanh @fooblahblah not sure I agree. I would love to hear why they can't be refactored.
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Replying to @mikegehard
@mikegehard@davetron5000@boulderDanH If you subscribe to using tests to refactor then refactoring tests require meta-tests...1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @fooblahblah
@fooblahblah@davetron5000@boulderdanh i have used the prod code to refactor tests. Just need to be careful to not drop tests.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @mikegehard
@mikegehard@fooblahblah@boulderdanh you can REWRITE tests, but it's a different thing than refactoring because you have no safety net1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @davetron5000
@davetron5000@fooblahblah@boulderdanh I disagree but can't answer via 140 chars. tldr small refactors are possible using code as tests.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @mikegehard
@mikegehard@fooblahblah@boulderdanh My longer explanation: http://www.naildrivin5.com/blog/2012/11/16/why-you-cant-refactor-test-code.html … a semantic, but important difference, IMO4 replies 1 retweet 0 likes -
Replying to @davetron5000
@davetron5000 if the change in behavior (introduction of default values) hadn't occurred then the big wouldn't have cropped up.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @mikegehard
@mikegehard are you saying that it's not refactoring if doesn't conform to a list of known refactoring methods?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @davetron5000
@davetron5000 sorry too hard to discuss via twitter. Leaving a comment on post would be more appropriate way to discuss.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @mikegehard
@mikegehard Yeah, I know, but I am against blog comments :) too many negative ones to outweigh positives2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@davetron5000 @mikegehard it's like having YouTube comments... on your blog!
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