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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
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    Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Nov 2012

    Twitter's continuing and patently untrue portrayal of a "Ruby vs the JVM" dichotomy is a huge insult to @JRuby:http://venturebeat.com/2012/11/07/twitter-election-dev-post-mortem/ …

    1:42 PM - 7 Nov 2012
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      2. \reversemathwitch‏ @KirinDave 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule Let me give you a new narrative to hate. Ruby's syntax is nothing special in 2012. In fact, it looks a bit messy.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @KirinDave

        @KirinDave says the guy whose SOAP integrations were littered with underscores o_O

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. \reversemathwitch‏ @KirinDave 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule Oh no not UNDERSCORES.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @KirinDave

        @KirinDave well, you're the one talking about messy syntax...

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. \reversemathwitch‏ @KirinDave 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule Yeah underscores are totally on the order of what I'm talking about.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @KirinDave

        @KirinDave the equivalent Ruby code (which I was actually writing at the time doing a similar integration) looked a *lot* cleaner, IMO...

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. \reversemathwitch‏ @KirinDave 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule Ruby's lipstick notwithstanding, its expressive power is _no longer exceptional_ in the production software world.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @KirinDave

        @KirinDave no disagreement there

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Julio Capote‏ @capotej 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule for like the 30th time, we've tried jruby, its still 100x slower

        3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @capotej

        @capotej the LivingSocial monorail was 100x slower on JRuby too... until I fixed the performance problems. Then it was faster...

        2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
      4. Julio Capote‏ @capotej 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule come work here and move us all to jruby

        1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 7 Nov 2012
        Replying to @capotej

        @capotej I'm happy at LivingSocial, thanks ;)

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Bob Servability‏ @obfuscurity 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @headius Tell it to @jolieodell. She wrote the article.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @obfuscurity

        @obfuscurity @headius it's not @jolieodell's fault. This has been the Twitter "party line" for years: http://www.unlimitednovelty.com/2009/04/twitter-blaming-ruby-for-their-mistakes.html …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Bob Servability‏ @obfuscurity 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @headius @jolieodell I'm not saying its her fault. But it's reasonable to ask for external SME opinions.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Jolie O'Dell‏ @jolieodell 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @obfuscurity

        @obfuscurity @bascule @headius Sorry, I was briefly covering Twitter's perspective this time. Would you offer a guest post counterpoint?

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @jolieodell

        @jolieodell @obfuscurity yeah, I'd say ask @headius. Also no worries, that's how everyone at Twitter ha talked about Ruby for awhile

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Jolie O'Dell‏ @jolieodell 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @headius I always assumed it's because their scale requirements were so unusual. Anypoops, I'm the letter j @ http://venturebeat.com 

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. End of conversation
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      2. Stu Hood‏ @stuhood 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @jruby http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/which-programs-are-fastest.php?java=on&scala=on&php=on&jruby=on&yarv=on&python3=on&perl=on&calc=chart …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 8 Nov 2012
        Replying to @stuhood

        @stuhood thanks to boxed ints/floats, JRuby does poorly on numerical benchmarks :|

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. End of conversation

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