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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
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    1. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
      Replying to @bascule

      @dysinger @bascule lol good one but this is more problem of OS than "node" if Os will act like Erlang VM than it could solve all problems :)

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      Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 4 Nov 2012
      Replying to @jakuboboza

      @jakuboboza @dysinger how can an OS be more like a language virtual machine. Erlang separates VM from kernel. So did Azul...

      12:11 PM - 4 Nov 2012
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        2. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @dysinger Now you can run Erlang VM on 512 cores and thats fine but i think working like erlang vm could lead to next gen OS type

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        3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @jakuboboza

          @jakuboboza @dysinger Azul built their own OS and 768 core hardware. They still separated kernel from VM

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        4. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @dysinger i don't know Azul i need to read about it, but i know AMP is hard and I'm not sure if SMP will work on like 50k cores

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        5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @jakuboboza

          @jakuboboza @dysinger Azul wanted to build a turnkey massively multicore box that only run a JVM. They still had a "nanokernel"

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        6. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @dysinger i thought the question is how do you want to handle it in future with many cores. Ofc nano kernel loading proper OS.

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        7. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @jakuboboza

          @jakuboboza @dysinger kernel gives you low-level OS threads. VMs give you high-level abstractions

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        8. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @dysinger and ? what if you would have Erlang API to kernel primitives and not C API ? Kernel handles scheduling basically like VM

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        9. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @jakuboboza

          @jakuboboza @dysinger you seem to be arguing separation of concerns is a bad idea there o_O I strongly disagree, esp because of security

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        2. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @dysinger "VM's" in general are fixing OS'es "building layer on top of it" what if we would melt them ? Have close to none shared

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        3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @jakuboboza

          @jakuboboza @dysinger kernels and language VMs have different concerns. VMs run with lower privs, for example

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        1. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @dysinger state and from SMP try to go to AMP.

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        1. Jakub Oboza‏ @jakuboboza 4 Nov 2012
          Replying to @bascule

          @bascule @dysinger Well twitter is twitter only 160 chars. Node is more like event reactor. Now in Erlang you can also build event reactor

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