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    John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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    Interested in decentralization today? Learn what worked in the 2000s for p2p file sharing: ⚖️ Decentralization is a legal tactic used alongside activism ⌛ Decentralizing the wrong things is a waste of time ☠️ Decentralizing everything is suicide by bad UX Thread! 👇

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      2. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Decentralization should shadow the law it is trying to avoid. Chronology of popular p2p file sharing apps: 1999: Napster 2002: Kazaa 2005: BitTorrent Each app degraded its UX and altered its protocol for better legal protection.pic.twitter.com/3sQzTmEhtQ

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      3. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Decentralization for legal protection at the expense of UX: • Napster used p2p to avoid central hosting • Kazaa decentralized file search, hurting results and quality control • BitTorrent left search to others (The Pirate Bay). Terrible onboarding but better legal positioning

        4 proslijeđena tweeta 55 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      4. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Decentralize your tech until activists can takeover: • The Pirate Bay founders have gone to the ends of the earth to keep it online • Tor depends on activist exit node operators Activists *will* come! Coppersurfer runs a Tor relay, Bitcoin node, and a BitTorrent tracker!pic.twitter.com/FsfLQsHCMQ

        1 reply 7 proslijeđenih tweetova 65 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      5. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        What should we decentralize? Look for hacks you can formalize: • Link-only mp3 sites → Napster skirting hosting • User hosted Napster servers → eDonkey architecture • Coin tumblers → privacy coins • "No logs" VPNs → Tor • Anonymous domain purchasing → hidden servicespic.twitter.com/iDvz6eTreL

        6 proslijeđenih tweetova 45 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      6. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Tech vs. law starts w/ decentralized protocols, but is continued by activists, businesses, and OSS • Pirate Bay was stronger w/ Sweden's copyright law • Their servers are "raid-proof" • Pirate Bay proxy sites help w/ ISP bans • Protocols evolve via OSS communitiespic.twitter.com/ikgiPCZ03U

        1 reply 3 proslijeđena tweeta 29 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      7. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Recipe for a successful decentralized protocol: • Enable a valuable, legally suppressed use case • Company's products avoid sensitive use case. Let 3rd parties do that • Tech should be useful outside sensitive use case BitTorrent checked these boxes. @AugurProject might too!pic.twitter.com/P9oPe9djOF

        4 proslijeđena tweeta 64 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa
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      8. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        John Backus je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceJohn Backus

        Decentralize to stay alive, users don't want more.https://twitter.com/backus/status/1020111697896341504 …

        John Backus je dodan/na,

        John Backus @backus
        p2p file sharing history is littered w/ predictions that a new **unstoppable and totally decentralized** protocol will takeover. It never happened. Users always flocked to the least decentralized system possible. Big lesson for today's blockchain and decentralization ecosystems pic.twitter.com/O2mE85BxF8
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        1 reply 0 proslijeđenih tweetova 31 korisnik označava da mu se sviđa
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      9. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        John Backus je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceJohn Backus

        Open sourcing your decentralized protocol can provide legal insulation. There were dozens of OSS BitTorrent clients, what good does killing the company do?https://twitter.com/backus/status/1019655188485791744 …

        John Backus je dodan/na,

        John Backus @backus
        Decentralization made p2p file sharing tech hard to prosecute, but open source is why BitTorrent won the war. pic.twitter.com/ivxDLUSjZ1
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        1 reply 1 proslijeđeni tweet 38 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      10. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        John Backus je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceJohn Backus

        Decentralization is part of a larger legal playbook. More doesn't always help: BitTorrent was less decentralized than Kazaa but more legally resilient. Their use of OSS, marketing, PR, and implicit reliance on 3rd parties (The Pirate Bay) mattered morehttps://twitter.com/backus/status/1016428419674882048 …

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        John Backus @backus
        Decentralization is one strategy in a bigger picture, including: • OSS (eMule harder to kill than eDonkey) • Nonprofits (pure torrent trackers argue this) • Diff in intl law (Sweden > US for anti-copyright) • Reducing impact of takedowns (Pirate Bay hosts own DB archive)
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        1 reply 1 proslijeđeni tweet 25 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      11. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        BitTorrent won the legal war by being thorough: • Website talked about hosting not downloading • @bramcohen only talked about legal uses. Claimed no profit motive • Prominent free speech defense on website • Redundancy via OSS clients • Outsourced liability to Pirate Baypic.twitter.com/iHEznYJ4Ba

        9 proslijeđenih tweetova 57 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      12. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Decentralized protocols don't absolve the company of responsibility, it just shifts to the client: • Limewire had a copyright filter, disabled by default. Court reaction: "What? Make it mandatory!" • Kazaa had a NSFW filter. Court reaction: "So you could filter copyright too!"

        1 reply 2 proslijeđena tweeta 30 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      13. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Passing the buck to activists buys room to decentralize. While Hollywood fought Pirate Bay, the BitTorrent community added • Multitracker support (takedown resilience) • DHTs (decentralized torrent metadata storage) • PEX (peer discovery w/o trackers) Helping The Pirate Bay!pic.twitter.com/zB98rEZTzv

        1 reply 1 proslijeđeni tweet 26 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      14. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Some look at the file sharing movement and say "BitTorrent didn't win, Netflix+Spotify did!" Decentralization exploits legal boundaries, exposing rent seeking in anti-competitive industries. BitTorrent created the conditions that allowed Netflix and Spotify to exist We all won!

        6 replies 20 proslijeđenih tweetova 113 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      15. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        The political framing for decentralization is "censorship resistance." The market framing is "anti-competitive market resistance." P2P file sharing corrected anti-consumer markets for music and movies. Imagine what we can unlock with Bitcoin and Ethereum!

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      16. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        The chronology of the "most popular file sharing app" is roughly: Napster Limewire Kazaa eDonkey BitTorrent Reflecting "minimum viable decentralization" over time. Limewire was early, Kazaa more usable. BitTorrent's UX was bad, but won legal long gamehttps://medium.com/@jbackus/minimum-viable-decentralization-d813dcf653fc …

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      17. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        When decentralizing, half measures bite you in the ass: 🙈 Aimster obscured searches and user IPs from its protocol 💪 BitTorrent disowned search and left IPs in the clear Courts argued Aimster's conduct was "willful blindness." BitTorrent's choices made its position strongerpic.twitter.com/wAsLArkhWT

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      18. John Backus‏ @backus 11. ruj 2018.
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        Boiling down decentralization movements, we build technology to resist governments installing filters: 💿 Copyright (BitTorrent) 💰 Anti-money laundering (Bitcoin) 💌 Content/communication (Tor) Legal battles and tech evolution continues until its too hard to install a filter

        14 proslijeđenih tweetova 58 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      19. John Backus‏ @backus 12. ruj 2018.
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        Once legal pushback enters a decentralized product space, evolutionary pressures start filtering: • Weaker willed torrent search engines closed • BitTorrent's protocol evolved • The Pirate Bay doubles down Expect same when the US government takes on real crypto companies!

        1 reply 1 proslijeđeni tweet 23 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa
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      20. John Backus‏ @backus 12. ruj 2018.
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        Decentralized technologies mixes legal and objectionable streams together: • Can't separate darknet market traffic from anti-censorship on Tor • BitTorrent protocol is unaware of content You can't throw out the bath water without throwing out the baby, by design.

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