A while back I listened to "Making Obama", a podcast tracking thru his career. The first few eps turned out to be "Making Oprah", tracking her career from local news to superstar phenomenon. Honestly, the Oprah eps are better. Oprah is really impressivehttps://www.npr.org/podcasts/500692140/making-oprah …
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Oprah had crazy viewership that is ~impossible to recreate today. She started off creating more typical conflict-y shows (like Maury Povich) but over time reworked it into a positive and inspiring format (untested, very risky). Crazy ambition, charisma, execution, influence
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