Removing podcast ads and chitchat isn't just about shortening stuff you still listen to. I stopped listening to some podcasts with good content b/c the chitchat was too much. I think it would increase listenership and give hosts valuable feedback
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Theory on why chitchat infects podcasts: Biggest fans like chitchat and engage w/ it, positively reenforcing. The rest lose interest slowly, eventually dying off silently. Only a weirdo would email a podcast they feel neutral about to tell them to stop chitchatting.
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Hell yeah. Will check it out. Was hoping people would respond saying this already exists
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thought about this too but need to the get the UI right and incentivize timestamping somehow. like why should i who skip over stuff go back & take extra time annotate something i prob wont listen to again? i was thinking mvp could be a podcast app with heatmap of skip locations
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I think you might get a lot of mileage out of people naturally, like Waze. Low key spite-driven gamification. If you want to provide a carrot though, you could swap in your own ads for the ads that are replaced and make it ad free for people who contribute/confirm annotations
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yeah. am probably overthinking the incentive needed. other angle i was thinking was filter-in instead of filter-out. so like reduce every podcast to just the best 3-5 min clip. will naturally not have ads.
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You could also track how people use the fast forward and rewind buttons and probably get a pretty good idea of where the ads are at least
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do you worry that the institutionalization of skipping podcast ads would result in lower CPMs, thus hurting the ecosystem altogether?
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If ad block plus is allowed to be the internet mafia (“it’d be a shame if something happened to this ad placement...”) then it’s only a matter of time until the same happens for podcasts
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agreed, but I guess i mean from a moral perspective, not a predictive one — i kind of like the pleasant early-Internet economics of the podcasting world right now and would be bummed to see its demise hastened
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Yea, I like the aesthetic now. I’d also say that slicing and dicing content on my own device according to my own rules fits a certain early-internet hacker aesthetic. Not really opinions over here though, just horsing around
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I could also see this being a feature that almost no one uses, but a small percent of power users like John get something without impacting “normals” who just want to laugh or learn from passively during their commute (thereby not impacting $$ much)
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Yeah, I think the standard view is that crowdsourced / community-driven content is usually dominated by power users (StackOverflow, Wikipedia)
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Agree, though I was making a slightly different point: -In Wikipedia, Stackoverlfow et al, super users create content that both super users and regular users consume. -I think skip ads/skip banter features would be created *and* consumed by mostly just power users.
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Where do you put the token?
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lol if I had to: listening to the app’s replacement ads earns tokens. So does classifying ads, chitchat, etc. Listening to podcasts costs tokens. As should always be the case, token is behind the scenes unless you wanna get fancy with it
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@balindenberg could easily retool@UseMindstamp to do this. Another use caseThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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