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Seeking alternative compression. Hopefully wrong on average. Shameless. Started @getcognito and @bloom

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    1. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 2

      🏦 Tokens are always presented alongside speculative decentralized tech. How can we understand tokens if we don't get the product? Let's talk about tokenizing a protocol you know: BitTorrent Getting tokenization right could create an efficient market for content. Thread 👇

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    2. Paul Stefan Bohm‏ @paulsbohm Jul 2
      Replying to @backus

      I actually wrote about token/reputation incentivized Bittorrent back in 2003. Specifically look at this portion: http://web.archive.org/web/20071201200031/http://kybkreis.org:80/wiki/DP#Multi-phase_P2P_Micropayments_.28new_approach.29 … I also present an alternative to central bank token currencies using reputation currencies, because I didn't think Bitcoin was possible.

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    3. Paul Stefan Bohm‏ @paulsbohm Jul 2
      Replying to @paulsbohm @backus

      My plan was to attack @bramcohen's Bittorrent Network using a game-theoretic attack and then use it to introduce a currency via either a central bank or reputation. (Sorry, Bram).

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      John Backus‏ @backus Jul 3
      Replying to @paulsbohm @bramcohen

      Neat! The successor protocol that is backwards compatible but not forward compatible reminds me of Gnutella2 (inappropriately named by a non-community member who wrote his own protocol and wanted Gnutella community to adopt it). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnutella2#History …

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        2. Paul Stefan Bohm‏ @paulsbohm Jul 3
          Replying to @backus @bramcohen

          Yeah, this was pre-private trackers. Thinking was that persistent reputation/tokens and active discrimination against users with old clients could have forced a takeover.

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        3. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 3
          Replying to @paulsbohm @bramcohen

          In my fat protocol post, I mention how gameable prisoner's dilemmas in protocols can be a business for someone else to exploit, switching users. See K++ and GreedyTorrent Introducing more perks in a superset protocol like you propose seems similar, so I'd expect a similar result

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        4. @no identd‏ @no_identd Aug 7
          Replying to @backus @paulsbohm @bramcohen

          @no identd Retweeted Kelli Gwamtwa

          Sorry for semi-hijacking the conversation, but I figured most readers seeing this subthread might also want to look at these two sub-threads of the conversation, which got buried thanks to Twitter's terrible UX: 1., by @twigwam:https://twitter.com/twigwam/status/1013971424640471042 …

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          Kelli Gwamtwa @twigwam
          Replying to @backus
          5) The BitTorrent work could replaced by @MineFilecoin 6)why does the arts and entertainment world need to be so fragmented and at the same time the 'power of reach' is centralized. Why not have a network with more organic uprisings of great art...!
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        5. @no identd‏ @no_identd Aug 7
          Replying to @no_identd @backus and

          @no identd Retweeted William Minshew

          2., by @wminshew & @alexbosworth:https://twitter.com/wminshew/status/1013975694416609280 …

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          William Minshew @wminshew
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          Seems like it would be easier to implement as a lApp with the downloader paying at regular [micro]intervals, no interest required
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