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    John Backus‏ @backus Jul 1

    Connecting decentralization + obfuscation process of file sharing to digital currency. Rough draft: • Beenz/Flooz → FTP and IRC • DigiCash → MojoNation (visionary, too early) • e-gold → Napster • Bitcoin → Limewire/Kazaa/eDonkey • Zcash → BitTorrent Thoughts?

    6:22 PM - 1 Jul 2018
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    • Asbjorn Enge James Bolivar DiGriz maximalist decimus meridius zooko Le goliard Calvin Chu ⚡ᙇCrypto Longstockingᙇ⚡ Robert Kovalskee Moritz Bierling
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      2. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 1

        A few thoughts: • If law hadn’t destroyed Limewire/Kazaa phase, BitTorrent may not have dominated • Beenz/Flooz don’t totally fit IMO because they’re companies and AFAIK they just died because of dotcom bust. idk still seem noteworthy

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      3. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 1

        Ah another one: BitTorrent won not JUST because of tech. Key decisions: • Leave search to The Pirate Bay. Lawsuit magnet • No search in client • Company is squeaky clean. Doesn’t market saying “free copyrighted music!” and focuses on official use cases (distributing Linux)

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      2. A man with no hobbies‏ @ashconnor Sep 5
        Replying to @backus @zooko

        Zcash is more like Freenet

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. John Backus‏ @backus Sep 5
        Replying to @ashconnor @zooko

        Do you mean that in a positive or negative way?

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      4. A man with no hobbies‏ @ashconnor Sep 5
        Replying to @backus @zooko

        I was just drawing the comparison between encryption and zero knowledge proofs. Nobody knows who anyone else is in both systems.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. John Backus‏ @backus Sep 5
        Replying to @ashconnor @zooko

        Ah gotcha. Yeah, for these comparisons I was thinking about how the market evolved in the past which didn’t favor Freenet’s extreme choices. Minimum viable decentralizationhttps://medium.com/@jbackus/minimum-viable-decentralization-d813dcf653fc …

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      6. A man with no hobbies‏ @ashconnor Sep 5
        Replying to @backus @zooko

        Good article.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. John Backus‏ @backus Sep 5
        Replying to @ashconnor @zooko

        Thanks 🙏

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 1
        Replying to @backus

        Only semi-related, but here's a list of current projects you might enjoy looking into: GnuSocial + Mastodon + Pleroma + PeerTube, Dat + Beaker Browser, IPFS, Scuttlebutt, umm that's all I remember off the top of my head a lot of those broadly count as file-sharing

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      3. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 1
        Replying to @sonyaellenmann

        Thanks! I’m on @vgr’s Mastodon (http://refactorcamp.org ) and have used IPFS. I’ve read up on a few others. Next thing I want to dive deep on is Tribler since they’ve been screwing around with both sides of this since before the crypto craze I believe

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 1
        Replying to @backus

        Oooh I hadn't heard of Tribler!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Justin Poirier‏ @tokenizedcap Jul 2
        Replying to @sonyaellenmann @backus

        LBRY may interest as wellhttps://lbry.io/faq/different-ipfs …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 2
        Replying to @tokenizedcap @backus

        It's both awesome and overwhelming how many decentralization projects there are!

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 2
        Replying to @sonyaellenmann @tokenizedcap

        Yeah. Every time I share something crypto related, I get like 10 people saying "surely you've heard of <new vaguely related project>?" idk how people keep up with it all and weed out noise

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 2
        Replying to @backus @tokenizedcap

        Hehe sorry for adding to your noise!

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 2
        Replying to @sonyaellenmann @tokenizedcap

        Oh lol no I don't mean your tweet. Sorry, that was unclear.

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      2. jeet 🐊‏ @jeetsidhu_ Jul 1
        Replying to @backus

        If the significance of BitTorrent is that there's no one entity to go after then Bitcoin/Monero is BitTorrent. Zcash is controlled by one firm based in the US.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 1
        Replying to @jeetsidhu_

        Sorta. See followup tweets. More about clean org but that may not extend to currency where the final boss is the government not the RIAA

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. jeet 🐊‏ @jeetsidhu_ Jul 1
        Replying to @backus

        Are we past that stage though? If the USG was going to attack Bitcoin surely it would have been in 2H18 where it looked like hyperbitcoinization was happening live.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. John Backus‏ @backus Jul 1
        Replying to @jeetsidhu_

        No we’re definitely not. IMO, the smart move for USG may be to give up now so they don’t motivate further obfuscation and then have to deal with totally anonymous currency being the leader

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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