Does your mental model of human behavior explain the 2000s warez scene? • Competition to leak high profile albums • High risk of prison • Not for profit! • Against rules to share leaks outside The Scene • Not about love for music. They leaked the SpongeBob movie soundtrack
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lol. Just after I tweet this, I turn to the next page and read this.pic.twitter.com/04bHpMsXIt
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Basically, two of the top Scene members tried to leave in 2007 but couldn't escape the urge to keep leaking. They started up again, anonymously.
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Followup conundrum from the same book. Why were people *paying* to use a private torrent tracker?https://twitter.com/backus/status/1025559220836429826?s=21 …
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Yes, this to me seems like the most irrational community activities on the web. There is so little public information about how these things work though, I would not be surprised if the financial motive part actually turned out to be incorrect - just not transparent.
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I've learned a lot by listening to http://a.co/1rHLXwu The lack of financial motive wasn't 100% absent, but the norms were definitely strong and I'm fairly convinced that a lot of members likely weren't making money off of it and even more weren't inherently driven by it
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Fascinating, but disagree about “high risk”. Very unlikely to get caught.
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Not extremely likely you go to prison sure, but also high risk of getting fired which matters to a lot of people. Getting fired for stealing content so you can leak it is rough. Similar to being fired for embezzlement or something. Definitely industry blacklist material
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The answer can be found in Adam Smith (1759) The Theory of Moral Sentiments, Book 1, Section 3, Chapter 2 - Of the origin of Ambition, and of the distinction of Ranks
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Daniel would you be so kind to open: Adam Smith (1759) The Theory of Moral Sentiments, Book 1, Section 3, Chapter 2 **and copy for us what's relevant** Of the origin of Ambition, and of the distinction of Ranks
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"From whence, then, arises that (...)? To be observed, to be attended to, to be taken notice of with sympathy, complacency, and approbation, are all the advantages which we can propose to derive from it. It is the *vanity*, not the ease, or the pleasure, which interests us."
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the whole chapter is relevant and worth a read: http://www.econlib.org/library/Smith/smMS1.html … But briefly, Smith proposes that most human action (incl supposedly profit-oriented motives) is motivated by vanity and esteem, your own, and that of others. We are posers,
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self-image and other-image (vanity) are key: "to become the natural object of the joyous congratulations and sympathetic attentions of mankind is, in this manner, the circumstance which gives to prosperity all its dazzling splendour"
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I believe they call it "for the lulz" and if one has nihilists, sociopaths, and other highly neuro-atypical personalities as part of their mental model then it makes perfect sense :p
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So, its about status and earning renown? Doesn't sound that different from early day expeditioners
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Or Twitter. Or Bitcoin. [Turns off all devices. Goes to bed for a week.]
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Because rich, powerful, sometimes famous companies and people said you couldn't.https://twitter.com/backus/status/1006391825093967872 …
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I thought you are talking about online dating
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Status is at least as important as money motivation it’s just harder for economists to quantify
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