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I am not nothing in the sense of emptiness, but I am the creative nothing, the nothing out of which I myself as creator create everything.

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    1. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 26 Nov 2017

      Why yes *eats caviar* I am *drinks champagne* a socialist *invests in the stock market* and uh *spits on a fast food worker* there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism *drives away in a BMW*

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    2. vaguely  ⚔️ humanoid‏ @vaguelyhumanoid 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

      that's not the argument, the argument is that proles shaming other proles for not buying nothing on buy nothing day is divisive and pointless

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    3. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @vaguelyhumanoid

      What is better: To utilize your alienation tokens to support the cause or to utilize your alienation tokens to support business as usual? If there actually is a difference, then perhaps there actually is such a thing as "ethical consumption" under capitalism.

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    4. vaguely  ⚔️ humanoid‏ @vaguelyhumanoid 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

      buying conflict free vegan tube socks or whatever that are more expensive is liberal and not revolutionary, and this is coming from someone who does eat almost 100% organic due in part to medical reasons

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    5. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @vaguelyhumanoid

      That sidesteps my question entirely. We buy ideology. That's part of the game. But, guess what? "No ethical consumption" is just as much a part of consumer ideology as vegan tube socks. Also, organic for medical reasons??? Heh?

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    6. vaguely  ⚔️ humanoid‏ @vaguelyhumanoid 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

      the reason capitalism is bad is because it denies people the necessities of a fulfilling life. to chide other working-class people for not being even more self-denying than expected of them by their economic conditions is smug liberal purity politics.

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    7. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @vaguelyhumanoid

      Commodity fetishism is more self-denying than asceticism. Conspicuous consumerism is more self-denying than community engagement. Consumerism is liberalist and alienating regardless if it's "ethical" or not. Also, are you an Owenite?

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    8. vaguely  ⚔️ humanoid‏ @vaguelyhumanoid 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

      commodity fetishism isn't the fault of proles. blaming individuals for not being ascetic enough is empty moralism and presents capitalism as the fault of individuals for making bad choices rather than a systemic problem with a systemic answer.

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      Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @vaguelyhumanoid

      So punching individual Nazis is good praxis but trying to make consumer choices which might hinder the most egregious capitalist institutions is just smug liberalism... because somehow punching individual Nazis is a systemic answer while altering consumption habits ain't?

      3:22 PM - 26 Nov 2017
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        2. vaguely  ⚔️ humanoid‏ @vaguelyhumanoid 26 Nov 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

          individual nazis are a threat. individual soup cans or pairs of shoes aren't. individual refusal to consume is still a consumer decision, and that's why it's not revolutionary. your consumption choices don't matter, and neither do mine.

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        3. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 26 Nov 2017
          Replying to @vaguelyhumanoid

          Individual Nazis are an easy target and much less of a threat than your average CEO.

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        4. vaguely  ⚔️ humanoid‏ @vaguelyhumanoid 26 Nov 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

          a CEO's power isn't challenged by one person not buying a product they sell millions of a day. do you think taking shorter showers and using more efficient lightbulbs would stop global warming?

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        5. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 26 Nov 2017
          Replying to @vaguelyhumanoid

          No, but abolishing animal agriculture would.

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        6. vaguely  ⚔️ humanoid‏ @vaguelyhumanoid 26 Nov 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

          *industrial farming of both animals and plants

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