wdym? and changing one's day-to-day habits isn't a revolutionary movement, there are no ethical consumers etc etc
Of course you had to respond literally a minute before I deleted it... What I mean is that from what I've seen, I lot of people who claim to be anti-capitalist seem to think that life would be essentially the same after the fall of capitalism.
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Ethical consumers is not the point. The point is that our consumption habits are entirely predicated upon the capitalist mode of production and as such if you continue to operate as you did before you supposedly came to anti-capitalism then you don't really understand capital.
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how should people operate differently, in the here and now?
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Give up all your worldly possessions lol That commodity fetishism gotta go
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choosing poverty is bourgeois - the actually deprived don't have the time for ascetism. individual consumerism is the effect of capitalism, not the cause, and addressing that symptom alone solves nothing.
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The actually deprived? Do you fit that category? I was born into poverty and I continue to live in poverty. And I thought we were talking about leftists, not the actually deprived.
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Like, you think sitting in an armchair and dreaming about socialism while doing everything exactly the same as before is going to accomplish anything? You think organizing in a manner which replicates the capitalist mode of production is going to do anything?
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If we want change then WE have to change. Society is an aggregate of individuals and individuals are the nodes of social construction. Capitalism is not something that is independent of us. Capitalism is literally the spirit of our time, and the shadow of humanity.
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capitalism is not merely a belief system, a feeling or a behavior enacted by people on the ground level. it is and always was set in place by authorities and enforced thru violence, and throwing out consumer goods (wasteful btw) does not challenge those authorities
End of conversation
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ok, i agree that that doesn't hold up
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