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I am not nothing in the sense of emptiness, but I am the creative nothing, the nothing out of which I myself as creator create everything.

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    Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 11 Mar 2017

    If you are against communism, why? I'm curious to know your reasons.

    9:42 PM - 11 Mar 2017
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    • masquerobot rc israel blasczak Iamnotree
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      2. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        I'd rather be ruled by a slow and exploitable UFAI (capitalism) than a cabal of shit-eating bureaucrats. Also, the Berlin Wall.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @riyenakshi

        So you're not against communism per se, but a certain degenerated implementation of political-economy under commie rhetoric.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        I'm against the thing that's happened in every communist state.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @riyenakshi

        Well, me too but because it's not communism and not because it is communism.

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      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        i tend more pro than anti but i'm deeply skeptical of it because it sounds like having your life run by a homeowner's association

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @bAbAHAdAd

        want to try to do something innovative that requires more than your subsistence resources? there's a committee for that!

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Think of what AI plus communism means though. There's nearly enough computing power to track every resource on the planet.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        oh, well, you didn't say Culture fully automated luxury communism with machine despotism on top! all in for that

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        It's not despotism, it's hivemind!

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      7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        okay, machine hivemind despotism

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      2. bobbi‏ @cathair98 11 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        I'm against communism in its capacity to enable power structures.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 11 Mar 2017
        Replying to @cathair98

        How so?

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      4. bobbi‏ @cathair98 11 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        it implies a certain modicum of power towards a central figure

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. bobbi‏ @cathair98 11 Mar 2017
        Replying to @cathair98 @bAbAHAdAd

        I'm certainly a Marxist but I have certain doubts about leninists, maoists, etc

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      2. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

        .@bAbAHAdAd most succinct answer: http://home.uchicago.edu/~vlima/courses/econ200/spring01/hayek.pdf … central planners never really got past this issue

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      3. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        modern pseudo-commies accept central planning failed and search for alternatives thoughhttp://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2016/05/bad-arguments-against-marxism.html …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @SilverVVulpes

        this is super-interesting actually. after 2m skim seems like there are places where I'd quibble on organizational theory, but

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      5. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @eigenrobot @SilverVVulpes

        this (at a high level at least) seems way more realistic than past iterations weird to still call it communism tho (?)

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      6. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        it's workers owning means of production,so literally communism but yeah guess it's not even marxismleninism used pseudo for that

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @SilverVVulpes @eigenrobot

        Maybe get a few tons of excess grain and let some bunch of thousands try it out just in case famines are that deterministic

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      8. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @SilverVVulpes

        yeah something like this might be inevitable w/ sufficient automation + democracy maybe? glad people are thinking about it

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 12 Mar 2017
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        I take note that you're well-versed in microeconomics and also a pinko

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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