On the question of post-irony and meta-irony; Vaporwave vs. Retrowave (Synthwave/Outrun/Futuresynth) --
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ohhh ok. yeah I would say vaporwave is more post irony. retrowave is a mix of straight up sincerity and meta irony (stuff like kung fury)
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Hmmm, it's that element of sincerity in rwave which give me the impression of the opposite. Vwave seems to lack any sincerity.
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Vaporwave kinds seems entirely ironic and ironic about its irony.
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hmm yeah i feel like alot of vaporwave does that, like james ferraro, it's definitely a big tent genre so i think you get stuff that's
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way it recontextualizes stuff, so it's the future that we want based on the future we were promised. to me at least lol
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ive seen alot of people including me on the "vaporwave imagery is the future we were promised" but it's more than retrofuturism due to the
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despite some of it also satirizing advertisements and other elements of capitalist culture.
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like marx and left acceleration, vaporwave clearly finds aspects of capitalism and capitalist imagery and visions of the future desirable
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