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I am not nothing in the sense of emptiness, but I am the creative nothing, the nothing out of which I myself as creator create everything.

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    1. autumn gab  🍂‏ @gabrielamadej 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @worthy248

      i do it because i care about other people - and caring comes loaded with all sorts of normative assumptions

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    2. autumn gab  🍂‏ @gabrielamadej 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @gabrielamadej @bAbAHAdAd @worthy248

      for one, i believe that i ought to care about it prior to caring about it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      Because? Why believe you ought to care? Because you care? That's circular.

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    4. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      Besides not all normative statements are moral, so you're missing my point completely.

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    5. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      If you care because of x value, then you ought to y. The ought does not precede the hypothetical clause.

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    6. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      But morality is when you ought to care regardless if you actually care or not.

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    7. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      Wherein you ought to care not because you do care, but because it is a higher, 'sacred' value.

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    8. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      Which is really great if you lack understanding of nuance in social settings and want to maintain tribal politics.

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    9. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      Then that higher value, morality, is absolutely necessary. It is a method of subjugation.

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    10. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      Keeping people in check through guilt mechanisms is a surefire way to maintain a hierarchy.

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      Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

      Morality is necessary to structural violence -- to in-group/out-group mentality.

      4:05 AM - 27 Feb 2017
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        2. autumn gab  🍂‏ @gabrielamadej 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @worthy248

          it's really not. hypocrisy, betrayal of values, and meaningless bloodlust is also par for the course in authority

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        3. autumn gab  🍂‏ @gabrielamadej 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @gabrielamadej @bAbAHAdAd @worthy248

          as well as in ingroup/tribal mentality in general. morality is one of our best means of opposing it

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        4. autumn gab  🍂‏ @gabrielamadej 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @gabrielamadej @bAbAHAdAd @worthy248

          a consistent, non-hypocritical morality is impossible to maintain in authority systems

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        2. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

          It's hard to dehumanize the other without casting them as evil and it's hard to cast them as evil if you reject it

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        3. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

          That being said, I am amoral. My values are in flux and I have no sin because there is no sin.

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        4. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @gabrielamadej @worthy248

          But, you'll continue to dehumanize me and reject my narrative solely due to your instance upon morality.

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        5. autumn gab  🍂‏ @gabrielamadej 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @worthy248

          well, first i want to apologize if i'm doing that. my claims are not based on what you experience per se.

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        6. autumn gab  🍂‏ @gabrielamadej 27 Feb 2017
          Replying to @gabrielamadej @bAbAHAdAd @worthy248

          but second i don't understand what dehumanization as a concept is - without a morality saying that it's bad or good

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