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    1.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @miraculate Nov 2

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      An ominous replacement for "You have nothing to lose but your chains" by the identitarian left: "you will begin to understand how much you benefit". https://twitter.com/meansleep/status/1057992688124002304 …

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    2.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @miraculate Nov 2

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      This isn't socialism. It's just changing the beneficiaries of exploitation, glossed as reparations. In an actual socialist society the notion of reparations would be meaningless because property would be held in common. https://twitter.com/meansleep/status/1058401892911452160 …

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    3. 𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
      Replying to @miraculate @materialist_kun

      What does property being held in common do to heal the mass trauma inflicted on marginalized groups across the globe?

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    4.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @miraculate Nov 2
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @materialist_kun

      You can't actually right historical wrongs like that, at least not without drowning the globe in blood. The best we can do is eliminate it going forward and eventually the trauma will pass into historical memory.

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      𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
      Replying to @miraculate @materialist_kun

      That doesn't make sense. You're saying that we can't focus our efforts and resources on fixing the damage that capitalist imperialism has done without drowning the globe in blood? That's insane and seems like just an excuse to turn a blind eye.

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        2.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @miraculate Nov 2
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @materialist_kun

          At the most basic level, you can't fix the damage because you can't resurrect the dead. There are persistent inequalities that can and must be corrected but historical wrongs cannot, in the final analysis, ever be righted.

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        3. 𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
          Replying to @miraculate @materialist_kun

          Oh, I see. You think that reparations means mass necromancy and would therefore require mass blood sacrifice.

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        4.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @miraculate Nov 2
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @materialist_kun

          No, I think nothing of the sort, and you have reading comprehension issues.

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        2. Totally Schwarzwald‏ @materialist_kun Nov 2
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @miraculate

          You got rid of the capitalists, and you still put the responsibility on the proles for what happened under capitalist imperialism? That all effort should go towards the Global South when not all of us are there? This sounds of Third-Worldist "labor aristocracy" nonsense.

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        3. 𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
          Replying to @materialist_kun @miraculate

          I don't think that's what is meant by reparations in this context. It's not about shifting power from one group to another, but about acknowledging history and taking steps to heal the very real trauma of those who have lived under extreme oppression.

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        4. 𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @materialist_kun @miraculate

          And I don't think it's really that much to ask to actually care about the wellbeing of other people. If you don't, why even call yourself a socialist?

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        5. Totally Schwarzwald‏ @materialist_kun Nov 2
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @miraculate

          There's being a socialist, and then there is being expected to take responsibility for other people's interests and ideological goals. I find the paternalistic-esque fetish of viewing the Global South as unable to heal without "reparations" or "aid" from outside to be insulting.

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        6. 𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
          Replying to @materialist_kun @miraculate

          This totally ignores the material reality of the Global South. Impoverishment doesn't come out of nowhere. If we don't acknowledge the trauma that's been inflicted and give back what's been taken, how can we call ourselves socialists in any serious measure?

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        7. 𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @materialist_kun @miraculate

          We owe so much of our own development to these people. We've been living off of them and living fairly comfortably because of it. We're all complicit in this system so it's not unreasonable to ask that we give back.

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        8.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @miraculate Nov 2
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @materialist_kun

          You first. If you feel some sort of responsibility for other people's impoverishment then go do something about it rather than lecturing us.

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        9. 𝕬𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖑 𝕴𝖆𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖔𝖙𝖍 🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Nov 2
          Replying to @miraculate @materialist_kun

          I will.

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