why the fuck are MLs choosing WORK as their hill to die on? is it really utopian to imagine a world in which labor becomes increasingly less and less important due to advancements in technology as well as societal need and structure?
We cannot not labour, else we'd be dead. The problem isn't that we must labour, the problem is that we are alienated therefrom. A Marxist isn't interested in idealistic notions such as abolishing work, but rather in the materialistic process of transforming work.
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yes it seems from the tweets i've read that the discussion has completely avoided any discussion about making labor no longer alienating. labor practically ceases to be labor if this can be achieved and yet I see no discussion on this but tons on how required work is
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Basically we get rid of capitalism and implement socialism and then, viola, alienation vanishes. Right?
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I wish. We cant even imagine a process of labor that isn't alienating under our current material conditions. Capitalism needs to fall, but its fall alone nor any sort of 'implementation of socialism' following it will rid us from alienation
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I like to think that I can imagine past capitalism and imagine unalienated labour...
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possibly although I'd be wary as to how deep capitalism can penetrate and corrupt our perception of reality and thus all the ideas and notions we arrive at under these material conditions
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