I gotcha. Well as far as Marx goes, there is a difference between socialism and communism, but only inso far as Communism is just a further development of the conditions which Socialism will give us.
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Marx discusses it too, it's not my he used dialectics as a frame work for the movement of history, and why he discusses socialism and communism as different things. This is also Lenin's understanding, yes. Engals also helped to develop Dialectical materialism, after Marx died.
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Could you point to where Marx delineates socialism and communism as different? It was my understanding that Lenin separated the terms based on Marx's phases of communism and that Marx used the terms interchangeably.
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Sure thing! Here I think is a good example of Marx using both socialism and communism in a work to mean different things. I think people found this confusing which is why Engals wrote so much about dialectics after Marx died. http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/poverty-philosophy/ch02.htm …
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I trust Engals in his understanding of Marx. I trust Marx to have understood dialectics because he was a student of Hegelian philosophy. Understanding how dialectics functions allows a reader to see what context Marx uses Socialism and communism and understand how he nuances it.
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Also I think there is a reason the Spectre of Communism is haunting Europe, as opposed to socialism, as it will be a logical development from the fight to establish socialism out of capitalism. Socialists already existed and we're known to themselves when Marx started writing.
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But it's hard to point to a spot where Marx articulates it directly, because he never defines the state. He focused on political economy. The state is still an object of interest because of how it maintains the capitalist mode of production and helped to give rise to it.
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