Simple: we are supposed to expropriate the means of production, not destroy them. Most work under capitalism is unnecessary, so even if full automation is not achieved under socialism, working hours should be drastically cut. Marx wasn't a luddite.
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Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist
Most crime under capitalism either shouldn't be a crime in the first place or is done out of desperation due to capitalism. The few anti-social individuals shouldn't be thrown in a penal system, since punitive measures are not rehabilitive. They should be educated, not punished.
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Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist
Police were invented to capture slaves, they're necessary to the state. There are other ways of protecting community without utilizing a police force. The point of socialism is to abolish the state and capitalism.
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Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist
So you’ll have to assemble a new “force” of people who work to protect communities and to collect the anti-social individuals and take them to a place to separate and educate them... so the same amount of work will have to be done
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The work doesn’t go away when you call it by a different name or make it less exploitative and more useful
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To be fair, a lot of current work is useless or even counterproductive to society, so yes you could reduce work hours by redirecting those people into useful jobs.
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But if you couple that with treating all workers fairly and not exploiting foreign labor, the need for labor would go way up... the only way for it to be all leisure is to keep the empire
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Replying to @thiiiiiiccclark @georgiamarxist
Why would the need for labour go way up? Just get rid of all the useless things. No more stupid toys made to break, no more junk food, no more empty houses, etc. There's no way labour would need to increase if it was evenly distributed and production was based on need.
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Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist
It doesn’t have to go up. You could 1) keep exploiting third-world countries and 2) let everyone with a useless job never work again instead of doing something more useful for society
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Replying to @thiiiiiiccclark @georgiamarxist
That doesn't make sense. You're not taking into account automation or how a shift in production would necessarily change how work is done. There's no need to exploit third-world countries or prevent people from working.
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Transition useless jobs to useful jobs and now the net work necessary per individual to maintain useful production goes down.
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