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I am not nothing in the sense of emptiness, but I am the creative nothing, the nothing out of which I myself as creator create everything.

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    1. Georgia Marxist ☭‏ @georgiamarxist Jun 20

      the "abolish all work!" crowd is full of a lot of the same people who say there should be no jails or police of any kind after the revolution & wow what a combination that would be

      33 replies 17 retweets 190 likes
    2. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Jun 20
      Replying to @georgiamarxist

      Why would jails, police, or "work" (alienated human action) be necessary post-revolution? Especially in the West? We already have the infrastructure to transition fully to socialism... Why keep unnecessary bourgeois institutions?

      1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
    3. Georgia Marxist ☭‏ @georgiamarxist Jun 21
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd

      why would crime, counter-revolution, or the need to produce & distribute what we need suddenly go away? also, much of the infrastructure we have is built upon the empire & its spoils, a situation which cannot continue under socialism

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Jun 21
      Replying to @georgiamarxist

      Simple: we are supposed to expropriate the means of production, not destroy them. Most work under capitalism is unnecessary, so even if full automation is not achieved under socialism, working hours should be drastically cut. Marx wasn't a luddite.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Jun 21
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist

      Most crime under capitalism either shouldn't be a crime in the first place or is done out of desperation due to capitalism. The few anti-social individuals shouldn't be thrown in a penal system, since punitive measures are not rehabilitive. They should be educated, not punished.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Jun 21
      Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist

      Police were invented to capture slaves, they're necessary to the state. There are other ways of protecting community without utilizing a police force. The point of socialism is to abolish the state and capitalism.

      8:36 AM - 21 Jun 2018
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        2. nick‏ @thiiiiiiccclark Jun 21
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist

          So you’ll have to assemble a new “force” of people who work to protect communities and to collect the anti-social individuals and take them to a place to separate and educate them... so the same amount of work will have to be done

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. nick‏ @thiiiiiiccclark Jun 21
          Replying to @thiiiiiiccclark @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist

          The work doesn’t go away when you call it by a different name or make it less exploitative and more useful

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. nick‏ @thiiiiiiccclark Jun 21
          Replying to @thiiiiiiccclark @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist

          To be fair, a lot of current work is useless or even counterproductive to society, so yes you could reduce work hours by redirecting those people into useful jobs.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. nick‏ @thiiiiiiccclark Jun 21
          Replying to @thiiiiiiccclark @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist

          But if you couple that with treating all workers fairly and not exploiting foreign labor, the need for labor would go way up... the only way for it to be all leisure is to keep the empire

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Jun 21
          Replying to @thiiiiiiccclark @georgiamarxist

          Why would the need for labour go way up? Just get rid of all the useless things. No more stupid toys made to break, no more junk food, no more empty houses, etc. There's no way labour would need to increase if it was evenly distributed and production was based on need.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. nick‏ @thiiiiiiccclark Jun 21
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @georgiamarxist

          It doesn’t have to go up. You could 1) keep exploiting third-world countries and 2) let everyone with a useless job never work again instead of doing something more useful for society

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Jun 21
          Replying to @thiiiiiiccclark @georgiamarxist

          That doesn't make sense. You're not taking into account automation or how a shift in production would necessarily change how work is done. There's no need to exploit third-world countries or prevent people from working.

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        9. Ariel Ialdabaoth  🔥‏ @bAbAHAdAd Jun 21
          Replying to @bAbAHAdAd @thiiiiiiccclark @georgiamarxist

          Transition useless jobs to useful jobs and now the net work necessary per individual to maintain useful production goes down.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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