UCL now hosts Facebook’s PhD programme. Not an endowment or grant with guaranteed independence, but a business partnership where the company (as in this press release) describes the PhD programme, consistently as “ours”.https://twitter.com/alexvoica/status/1364306538521890820 …
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Michael Veale podał/a dalej Sebastian Riedel
In relation to specific PhD projects, I don't think the question is wheter FB defines direction or not, but whether it institutionally constrains it. Contractual terms between UCL and Facebook on freedom to publish and IP ownership should be published.https://twitter.com/riedelcastro/status/1364526667427958785 …
Michael Veale dodał/a,
Sebastian Riedel @riedelcastroW odpowiedzi do @mikarvHi Michael, students have full freedom in this program. They work with their UCL and FAIR supervisors, and all collaborate in terms of scoping projects, setting goals and execution--directions are not defined by Facebook. And they publish and open source the resulting work.1 odpowiedź 1 podany dalej 26 polubionychPokaż ten wątek -
Michael Veale podał/a dalej Emiliano DC
Industry funding or co-funding is common (through eg CASE), but it's not common for companies to run a structured PhD programme. This isn't about compromised individual researchers; it's about institutional reliance of universities on private companies.https://twitter.com/emilianoucl/status/1364566724000022529 …
Michael Veale dodał/a,
Emiliano DC @emilianouclW odpowiedzi do @riedelcastro @mikarvAlso extremely common in CS for PhD students to be funded by/work in a company. Jens Groth did his PhD this way and plenty of great IBM-trained cryptographers. As long as the "bar" for granting the degree is no different than for any other@uclcs student I don't see the problem1 odpowiedź 4 podane dalej 28 polubionychPokaż ten wątek -
Some questions: 1) Is UCL publishing the total value of direct and in-kind (e.g. compute) resource it is being provided by Facebook? 2) Does UCL disclose how many of its academics are either funded by FB or on part-time FTE contracts jointly with FB?
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3) Are students in practice expected to sign NDAs to undertake their PhD? 4) Has UCL negotiated any actual contractual terms with FB that protect its students' indepencence and freedom to publish? What are they?
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5) Are papers written by the student subject internal FB review which also considers business interests (e.g. the recent Google
@timnitGebru situation) — even de facto by virtue of being co-authored with a FB supervisor?(students can hardly refuse to add a supervisor's name)1 odpowiedź 4 podane dalej 20 polubionychPokaż ten wątek -
It's unclear why UCL has to do this. I can see the pressure if it was a field with little PhD funding, but public funding for AI PhD students at UK universities is not difficult to secure (following consequences of report by
@DameWendyDBE). Supervision capacity is the limiter.4 odpowiedzi 1 podany dalej 16 polubionychPokaż ten wątek -
The sum for this programme does not seem very big, either. 1m over 4 years. A cheap price for a company that routinely operates outside the law to legitimise itself by aligning even more closely and explicitly (there's even a press release!) with a top university.
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@Melissahei reports that PhD students will be employed by and paid by FB during this time. This would mean they are subject to dismissal and termination of funding as per FB contracts (just as@timnitGebru@mmitchell_ai for G). Reconcile this with independent academic research?pic.twitter.com/RO6hS5z8Jh
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W odpowiedzi do to @mikarv@Melissahei i jeszcze
Time for
#UK universities to start paying anything vaguely closer to the market rate
to stop the brain drain (although trading academic freedom for £££ is a personal decision!) rather, UUK is slashing salaries (14% effective pay cut in the last decade) and #USS our pensions!1 odpowiedź 0 podanych dalej 3 polubione
OMG. I love this tweet.
The op definitely has experienced and idealised academic journey that most of us from a marginalised community haven’t.
So I’m just like mate, I would rather have a FB salary and better protections.
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