Which is not to say that there is no better solution, I just haven't seen evidence of good solutions lurking around the corner (unlike online conferences which have obvious advantages to a wide range of problems)
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W odpowiedzi do to @bradpwyble @Merz i jeszcze
Journal publishing, in-person conferences both benefit industries that have excluded academics esp ECRs from discourse & slowed research, taken power away from researchers.OPR & virtual conf will return power to researchers. JIFs & GRCs & their prestige system are the same thing.
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W odpowiedzi do to @SSarabipour @bradpwyble i jeszcze
I do not buy the pessimism on working on & improving OPR & virtual conferences. Academia as a whole can improve & continuous discourse with all demographics involved is the way forward. Many

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W odpowiedzi do to @SSarabipour @Merz i jeszcze
I'm not saying that we shouldnt work on it, I just don't see how OPR solves the problems. But then again I also wasn't very optimistic about virtual conferences until we were forced to have them
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W odpowiedzi do to @bradpwyble @SSarabipour i jeszcze
We discussed this before, but to me the problems with the current system are so egregious that we have to experiment with alternatives. I'm really happy about eLife experiment for that alone (and I'm now a reviewing editor there btw). It's not enough, but let's see how it goes.
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W odpowiedzi do to @neuralreckoning @bradpwyble i jeszcze
Experiments are worth trying. I think this one naïve. I've seen enough pressure on the scales at eLife — with best-intentioned referees and editors — to think that this initiative does little or nothing to address the serious underlying issues. Which are, to be fair, intractable.
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W odpowiedzi do to @Merz @neuralreckoning i jeszcze
The fundamental flaw is that, exactly as in the legacy system, it depends wholly on the judgement of editors (and their personal courage and diligence), while doing little to address their underlying biases.
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W odpowiedzi do to @Merz @neuralreckoning i jeszcze
And it's made worse by the fact that biased or inaccurate comments that will /inevitably/ make it through are now not appended to the end of the paper, or a supp. file, but directly attached to every copy of the paper, like post-its epoxied to the pages of a paper journal.
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W odpowiedzi do to @Merz @neuralreckoning i jeszcze
This of course is facilitated the specific Creative Commons Attribution License chosen by eLife, which permits modification of one's work — an ill-considered choice, in my opinion.pic.twitter.com/6ZPzmzP7GL
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W odpowiedzi do to @Merz @neuralreckoning i jeszcze
This is perhaps overly harsh, but I see this system as almost designed to cause new forms of abuse.
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I think we discussed this all with @Raamana_ last time.
He has a lot of thoughts in this space.
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thanks Azhir for looping me -- this thread seems to be 10K long, so will take sometime for me to get up to speed and make sensible comments (will do later today)
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