UG Degree awarding gap is one of the reasons for the sharp drop from UG to PGR for UK domiciled students. Upper second class (2.1) remains a requirement for PhD admission in @RussellGroup unis. Should we reconsider this? How do 2.2 holders perform at PGR?https://twitter.com/KEHplantsci/status/1362488630137282562 …
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W odpowiedzi do @tanvir_h @RussellGroup
I think there is a strong case for contextual PG admissions given some of the real issues in UG - unfortunately it will take time (decades?) to get UG sorted, but many PG admissions teams will be unaware of inequalities. Would be a relatively easy intervention with real impact
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W odpowiedzi do @KEHplantsci @RussellGroup
PGR admission teams in most unis are very very reluctant to lower their 2.1 requirement. (It used to cause huge issues for students from Italy, France & Portugal. Their 2.1 equivalent can be hard to achieve.)
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W odpowiedzi do @tanvir_h @RussellGroup
Yes. Unfortunately this means students with a 2ii who want to do PGR end up having to do an MSc which has huge ££ implications. PGT fees = Wild West of HE at the moment, and perpetuates massive inequality - wealthy student with 2ii can probably get to PGR, less affluent can’t
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Getting onto a MSci in itself with a 2ii is very difficult. And usually students with 2ii will end up having to do two PGRs to compensate as academics are incredibly elitist. From my perspective modern universities now perpetuate inequality and the class divide within society.
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Yes, and it’s becoming almost impossible for students to get on PhD with a 2.1 in my experience. 1st AND a masters seems to be more and more common, which cannot be good for diversity within research.
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UGs are inconsistent, it's a silly way to determined suitability to begin with. I cofounded a start-up where I managed a team of scientists, secured grants and clinical trials with major hospitals, developed novel medical AI, etc. I probably would never be accepted on to a PhD
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As an ex-VC backed founder. I've found a knowledge, competence, resilience or ability isn't well reflected in UG/PG. I'm less convinced by the value prop of traditional HE or if it makes good researchers. We need to value experience more and re-examine requirements for PhDs.
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