Yes, schemas alter perception. This is a well known phenomenon in cognitive psych. Again, I'm not convinced this is a strong argument for predictive processing because an expectation reduces degrees of freedom for after-the-fact decoding, making it easier.
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W odpowiedzi do @bradpwyble
No, again, I think you're missing the point. It isn't after the fact decoding - it's real time decoding! In my (subjective) it alters your instantaneous processing, no time-lag. Of course, that's not a scientific argument, but the OP was an off-handed remark, not a manuscript...
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W odpowiedzi do @tyrell_turing
You're assuming that what you perceive as instantaneous is actually so, but you cannot trust your sense of perceived time, especially when it comes to simultaneity. So it seems instant to you but your brain has already had hundreds of milliseconds to chew on that information. >
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W odpowiedzi do @bradpwyble @tyrell_turing
I'm sure you've heard of the adage that consciousness is a story that we make up after the fact. The words settle into an interpretation in your head over time but when it's fast (because you have expectation), you can't feel that settling process happen so it seems instant.
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W odpowiedzi do @bradpwyble @tyrell_turing
I'm sorry to be pedantic about a fun and real phenomenon, but it's important to be clear about when something is or isn't strong evidence for something. Maybe I'm not thinking about this the right way, but I can't see why this is evidence for prediction (over other likely ideas)
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W odpowiedzi do @bradpwyble
I understand all of this, and yes, you're being pedantic.
But, I maintain (on a personal, non-scientific level) that the experience of hearing something immediately and hearing something, then figuring out what it was, *feels* very different.1 odpowiedź 0 podanych dalej 1 polubiony -
W odpowiedzi do @tyrell_turing @bradpwyble
And what I experience when I can predict what's going to be said is *hearing* it, not just figuring it out post-hoc. Of course, my phenomenology may be misleading here, but that's why this was a tweet and not a paper.
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W odpowiedzi do @tyrell_turing
Of course it feels different to have that immediate sensation of understanding, and it does indicate some differences in the underlying processing as well. The question, as regards your statement that relates to prediction, is whether it really IS immediate. >
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W odpowiedzi do @bradpwyble @tyrell_turing
Cognitive psychology as a discipline is built on the premise that we have great difficulty understanding our own mechanisms through subjective experience alone. I know you know all this, so I'm failing to understand why you think this is true because you feel like it's true.
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W odpowiedzi do @bradpwyble @tyrell_turing
This is especially true for time, which is sloppy when it comes to subjective experience. It's possible to experience ambiguity that gets resolved later and then the resolution is retroactively inserted into our experience such that we have no memory of the other state.
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Ngl, I’ve actually learnt a lot from these thread and then following up by reading papers on these ideas.
So I’m really enjoying these. 
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W odpowiedzi do @azhir_io @tyrell_turing
yea it's a classic debate about the misleading nature of experience. Very weird stuff.
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