About 17.5k, which is tax free so equiv to about a 20k income before tax. At minimum wage, 6 weeks holiday that would be about a 50h week. I don't want to suggest that this is good enough by the way. I've been arguing to make it more. But it's good to be realistic.
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W odpowiedzi do to @neuralreckoning@behrenstimb i jeszcze
Sounds really great. It's fine anyway because post-doc salaries more than make up for those years of scrounging...pic.twitter.com/WT6gn4cphF
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W odpowiedzi do to @rmgrieves@behrenstimb i jeszcze
Imperial entry level postdoc salary more than 91% of the country.
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W odpowiedzi do to @neuralreckoning@rmgrieves i jeszcze
Do we know how it compares to people with the same level of education? (Of course we can also debate whether pay should be correlated with education level...)
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W odpowiedzi do to @ElDuvelle@rmgrieves i jeszcze
That should exist but would be a bit more work to dig out. I also strongly disagree that you should be paid more for being more educated, but I know this is a minority position along academics.
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W odpowiedzi do to @neuralreckoning@ElDuvelle i jeszcze
I definitely agree. I’ve found education levels and ability doesn’t correlate well at all. Education is just a signal for ability to work, but correlates terribly. The big 4 are moving away from this model because degree performance has awful correlation with output.
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W odpowiedzi do to @azhir_io@neuralreckoning i jeszcze
How do you define output though? That's a whole other thorny question.
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W odpowiedzi do to @bradpwyble@neuralreckoning i jeszcze
Valid point. I tend to define output as number of tasks completed * perceived difficulty of task. But the capitalistic implications of output is terrible. I guess a better explanation is degree performance and ability to climb the corporate ladder aren’t well correlated.
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W odpowiedzi do to @azhir_io@neuralreckoning i jeszcze
Right, but it could be that degree performance broadens someone's perspective, allowing them to make decisions that are better for society. e.g. Zuckerberg has high "output" but I wouldn't hold him up as an optimally productive member of society given his view of human nature
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W odpowiedzi do to @bradpwyble@azhir_io i jeszcze
Haha nice example! Obviously the "output" for a company vs for society are not the same, they are often anti-correlated; unfortunately the company one is currently more rewarded than the societal one. Hard to change unless states are given full control of salaries...
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Definitely work that is critical for the proper function of society is heavily undervalued. Nurses, teachers and essential service workers are the bedrock of our society, yet regularly undermined.
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