It’s not “mere inaction” if that’s the primary enabler of a toxic enterprise Can we write off university admins enabling a predatory rockstar prof as “mere inaction”? We need to make academic Ponzi scheme as unacceptable as sexual harassmenthttps://twitter.com/Raamana_/status/1345184627456143361?s=20 …
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As an example: how many ppl do you estimate were convinced to stop hoarding data as a result of the twitter mobbing of Jack Gallant, as opposed to disengaging from and distrusting the open science community?
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let me try get us back to my original question: why is public shaming okay to achieve changes in sexual harassment policies but not okay in dismantling academic ponzi schemes?https://twitter.com/Raamana_/status/1345184627456143361?s=20 …
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Future Distinguished Emeritus Prof Pradeep Reddy 😎 @Raamana_W odpowiedzi do to @Raamana_ @atypical_me i jeszcze 6osóbits amazing how people forget that we routinely employ public shaming as a tactic to achieve desired change.. a touchy/controversial analogy is this one (with all due respect and importance to the Me Too movement): https://twitter.com/Raamana_/status/1332071005318164485?s=20 …2 odpowiedzi 0 podanych dalej 1 polubiony -
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Sexual harassment, esp. with a power imbalance, is a clear reprehensible behaviour, and often illegal. Public shaming in this instance restores the imbalance of power. (Tho it is still not the ideal solution). There is no equivalence imo to, e.g., publishing choices.
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why isn't there an equivalence? both are reprehensible harassment -- as a mentor & friend for many intl students, I know toxic advisors inflict non-negligible pain (much more mental than physical) even in relation to sexual harassment; with "scars" that stay with you forever!!
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pain and abuse from toxic supervisors is one of the highest pains I and many other PhD students faced in their life. many academics are desensitized abt it - almost to the point that exploiting trainees is INDEED acceptable (in fact encouraged to sustain the Ponzi scheme)
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Maybe you should specify what sort of behaviour you're talking about. My assumption was publication practices...
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they are all tied to publi practices, as that's the primary metric we are judged by: both 1) seeking "highly prestigious" venues as well as 2) maximum number of papers lead to toxic environments, and painful abuse and exploitation of trainees, sustained by every1 participating
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Not sure this is always true, while I appreciate it may be true in your experience. In other cases, this system has no doubt been beneficial for students. Bad mentoring or harassment by a PI is imo a separate issue from academic best practices in publishing and evaluation.
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C'mon mate - these are widely acknowledged issues.. not saying you are saying that, but that sounds like that "i haven't seen this happen, it's likely an isolated/rare occurrence"
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It’s something you notice more w/ current gen of grads, if you know what you’re looking for. 30-40% of all grads have had to seek mental health support. While it’s only 25% across the general population during their lifetime. At those rates you’re looking a systematic issue.
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