As an example: how many ppl do you estimate were convinced to stop hoarding data as a result of the twitter mobbing of Jack Gallant, as opposed to disengaging from and distrusting the open science community?
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W odpowiedzi do to @atypical_me @Raamana_ i jeszcze
Contrast this with the outstanding success of Neuromatch and other open science initiatives - imagine how many scientists, both new and established, are genuinely persuaded by these. It takes much more energy to effect positive change than criticize inaction imo.
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W odpowiedzi do to @atypical_me @Raamana_ i jeszcze
Public shaming is a mob action, and a form of coercion. There is ample evidence that this can be toxic. Yes, even if the intention is to prevent toxicity. The Russian Revolution was meant to effect a fair and equitable society
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W odpowiedzi do to @atypical_me @bradpwyble i jeszcze
where is the "ample evidence" you mention? like i mentioned before, impact of shaming when choice is in subject's control has not been studied systematically
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W odpowiedzi do to @Raamana_ @atypical_me i jeszcze
Hold on. Eating disorders have been studied. Or how do you define control?
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W odpowiedzi do to @KordingLab @atypical_me i jeszcze
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W odpowiedzi do to @Raamana_ @atypical_me i jeszcze
So you think the science system is like a travel plan and not like addiction? :)
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W odpowiedzi do to @KordingLab @atypical_me i jeszcze
lol, no. but for an established PI with job security and name recognition, where they publish is in their control: nature vs PLOS vs Aperture, not an involuntary choice! (let's not pretend they publish in nature bcoz they care about trainee's success etc)
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W odpowiedzi do to @Raamana_ @KordingLab i jeszcze
Not sure I agree that addictions are "involuntary", nor that professional decisions are "completely under our control". All decisions are by definition voluntary, but influenced by emotional and cognitive factors. There are strong motivations for e.g., publishing behaviour.
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W odpowiedzi do to @atypical_me @Raamana_ i jeszcze
I do think that shame (or fear of punishment) is effective in preventing very unethical behaviour, like plagiarism, fraud, or sexual harassment. But it also has unintended negative consequences, and should be used sparingly, and particularly when there is near consensus.
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Near consensus part I’m not sure about, but agree that for publishing choice it makes less sense as it’s not really a civil rights issue. Publishing decisions are more dictated by economic factors, so I think we need to just create alternatives that make more economic sense.
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W odpowiedzi do to @azhir_io @atypical_me i jeszcze
I disagree with mostly economic factors. I never ever heard economic argument even come up in journal choice decisions.
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W odpowiedzi do to @KordingLab @azhir_io i jeszcze
It does for labs that operate on a tighter budget. E.g. without much support paying $1500 apc's for several articles per year is a considerable expense.
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