Of course university hiring not flawless but for me the biggest selling point of UBI etc is the saved aggregate grant writing hours, and removal of a biased and noisy funding allocation process.
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W odpowiedzi do to @cian_neuro@KordingLab i jeszcze
Years ago I watched a talk given by someone who was on a decades long no strings funding arrangement. Honestly it was pretty bad, no focus, minimal theory, just a long list of findings. My worry is that 0 grant pressure leads to rambling and ineffective research agendas
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W odpowiedzi do to @bradpwyble@KordingLab i jeszcze
Doesn’t have to be zero pressure, could still have competitive schemes in addition to a UBI. Also there are other drivers of competitiveness: jobs, prestige, fame, etc I would hesitate to generalise from n=1!
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W odpowiedzi do to @cian_neuro@KordingLab i jeszcze
Of course but this also resonates with my own experience too and I've heard others say the same, i.e That grants help to focus thoughts.
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W odpowiedzi do to @bradpwyble@KordingLab i jeszcze
I also get benefits from writing grants but not in proportion to the amount of time I put in. The polishing time and low success rates are too costly I mean come on, if it’s just a case of forcing people to write stuff down we could mandate some national essay writing sessions.
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W odpowiedzi do to @cian_neuro@bradpwyble i jeszcze
So let's get to the punchline. What are some of the parameters of the UBI scheme you're envisioning? It's easy to favor some theoretical concept over the present bespoke thing we have so long as you don't have to make the actual hard decisions and fill it out with some details.
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W odpowiedzi do to @andpru @cian_neuro i jeszcze
Some people have suggested 50% funds distributed between all researchers and each researcher deciding who should receive the rest): https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/new-system-scientists-never-have-write-grant-application-again … Interesting I think though not perfect, would need some corruption control mechanism (but so does the current system...).
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I actually don't like this idea because I think network effects would lead to power law distributions and the same problems with some mega rich labs as we have now.
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W odpowiedzi do to @neuralreckoning @LLogiaco i jeszcze
Replacing the good writers/ salespeople/ideasmakers with the good friends-haver sounds like a problematic direction.
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W odpowiedzi do to @KordingLab @neuralreckoning i jeszcze
At least everybody gets 50% of the funding. And the research shows that ' If scientists allocated 50% of their money to colleagues they cite in their papers, research funds would roughly be distributed the way funding agencies currently do'. We already have 'soft 'corruption...
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I definitely agree there’s the beginnings of a good system here. There are issues with nepotism, but I think if 40% -60% of funding was covered, with the rest being made up by industry or other investments. It could be really promising.
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