The publishing system and its failures can't be fixed by individual action, only collective action. Getting a glam journal paper can be career defining. That's wrong of course but I'm not sure it's reasonable to ask people to throw that away when doing so won't achieve much.
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Yes re collective action. If we all vowed not to submit papers to the big publishing houses, then that would lead to change, no?
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Possibly you could have a vow not to submit to those journals conditional on 90% of the field making the same vow. That might work. Still unlikely though.
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It's basically a group prisoner's dilemma. Brutally hard to escape without strong incentives.
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Have people ever consider creating a competitor to the existing publishing system? The modern system was setup by Robert Maxwell. The modern publishing system is an incumbent, why not applying startup logic to it?https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-business-scientific-publishing-bad-for-science …
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Lots of people are developing alternatives so I'd say this ground is fairly well trodden. I'm not sure that startup logic is a good idea, because financial pressures are the worst thing about the publication business.
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Your right that having financial pressures are terrible. Though don’t you think the bigger issue is that companies like Elsevier and Springer Nature essentially have a monopoly in the industry? Thus being able to force their terms.
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It's not a monopoly because there are many viable competitors, but they are highly dominant. I worry that a startup/business mentality would replace one nightmare for another.
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Sorry, I forgot the word cartel. It’s definitely a cartel given the market is dominated by the big 5 who don’t compete with one another. They’re guided by the founders ideals, but your right they are driven by growth/ revenue. But could there be fairer commercialisation model?
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Perhaps, it's impossible to say that there aren't, but it doesn't seem like a good place to start.
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W odpowiedzi do to @bradpwyble@azhir_io i jeszcze
Also, not to mention that Nature is not an open access venue.
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