increasingly really feel like dynamic programming languages are underserved by existing production profiling/tracing tools
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that's fascinating! do you think it's just because of the interests of the people who started those language, or like there were larger market forces?
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My guess would be something like: the more recent successful dynamic languages were successful in part because of the success of Linux and their ability to ride that wave by meeting the expectation of unix “scripting languages”;
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I’d be interested where you feel JS sits in that pile. It has similarish semantics to Python and Ruby, but also a well funded battle to make particular implementations fast and of course, an independently organized push over into the land of “unix scripting languages”
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chrome/firefox developer tools get a lot of investment and my impression is tools for frontend js are quite good. i don't know much about node.js
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I’d agree that JS is exceptional. Amusingly (but probably not critically) V8’s implementation lineage in terms of tech and people is from Smalltalk via Java, rather than from the scripting language world.
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And the browser encourages the kind of self-hosted environment that made Lisp and Smalltalk so fun;
@observablehq is the most recent example.
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