Startup idea: clone today's popular web apps but do it with minimal JavaScript and fast server-side performance and out-compete them on the next billion international web users with cheap Android devices
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Replying to @simonw
Also, locate those servers near those billion users....
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Replying to @indec
Yeah, getting smart with regional data centers (and clever tricks like cloudflare CDN workers) is definitely a smart strategy
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Replying to @simonw
I mean, there’s a whole field of study for looking at whether it’s better to front-load and cache JS and do the work on the device and only ship little bits of JSON versus shipping finished work across the network.
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I don’t feel like client-side rendering is necessarily bad, but becomes bad through a lack of discipline.
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“Lack of discipline” sounds pejorative which isn’t really what I mean. Client-side rendering is hard. Any library to enable it is going to get big. Doing without a library is going to be buggy (and end up big too).
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Which I suppose is your point! But it feels like just moving the mess around. You’re smearing the bandwidth costs out over time. Performance/latency depends on the network I guess.
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I the the tradeoffs here are very different depending on the complexity of the client-side UI. For a super-lightweight mobile app, which is necessarily simple because of smaller screens, the no-Javascript, render everything on the server-side approach seems appealing.
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Some of my favorite mobile browsing experiences (even on a modern iPhone) have been sites that have no CSS or images or JS, just a bunch of text and some blue nav links.
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