like the burning of all the disco albums in 1980, we can declare gamification dead, long live actual game design! Cc @dingstweets @ibogost
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@avantgame most games are designed to turn players into zombies. Your issue isn't with gamification, it's with unsavory application. -
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@gzicherm WHAT? if that's what you think of games, why try to invent a new industry copying games? -
@avantgame nearly 100% of commercial games are designed explicitly to maximize engagement, virality and revenue. They fail 80% of the time. -
@gzicherm I'm going to put a pause on this conversation for both our sakes because I think it has stopped being productive :) -
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@avantgame@gzicherm tiff is dispiriting/distracting to we using behavioral science, games, and, yes, gamification, to improve the world -
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@yoavlurie@gzicherm it's a disservice to call it a "tiff". There are fundamental disagreements about goals, methods. That's okay. -
@avantgame@gzicherm yes, but, "tiff" is much easier to fit into a 140 character tweet than "fundamental disagreement." Pardon my brevity. -
@yoavlurie@gzicherm ha ha lol true :)
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@avantgame@gzicherm so that's how the zombie apocalypse happens - our brains get gamified. wait wouldn't that be a great premise for a FPSThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@avantgame@gzicherm gamification versus ludictatorship I call itThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@avantgame@gzicherm Unfortunately, there are applications for both. At the minimum, this is disclosed to the user (they choose to play/not)Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@avantgame@gzicherm IMO games are meant to inspire and bring joy. Gamification should make shopping more fun/inspiring instead of zombie.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@avantgame And FWIW, I've never been approached to do anything like that. That sounds like a misguided company and person.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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