like the burning of all the disco albums in 1980, we can declare gamification dead, long live actual game design! Cc @dingstweets @ibogost
@dingstweets @ibogost well that's kind of good right? It are we mad that the few people who actually DO gamification won't call it that? :)
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@avantgame@ibogost (Plus, "motivational design" was intended as an opposite term now also becoming co-opted.) -
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@dingstweets@ibogost Maybe they'll call it LASER motivation design? Limited And Slightly Evil Reductionist Motivation design -
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@avantgame your rejection of the gamification community's earnest effort to improve the world seems inconsistent with your public values. -
@gzicherm I reject the fact that I am frequently associated with motivational design strategies I don't actually employ -
@avantgame this isn't about you (or me). This is about the thousands who want to change the world with the best tools available. -
@gzicherm@avantgame "change the world" != "improve the world". Much of gamified marketing is exploitive by design, according to your books -
@gzicherm@avantgame Gabe, a programming language is inherently neutral. Gamification is inherently manipulative. Have you not said so? -
@BertBates At least I can say that I have not directly profited from murder, violence and death. But keep questioning my ethics.@avantgame - 2 more replies
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@avantgame@ibogost The Issue is that they, realising the bad associations/waning lustre, now just switch to different words. -
@dingstweets@ibogost I think ultimately its good tho cause then when we say games people won't associate it with that?
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@avantgame@dingstweets@ibogost they should get further & rebrand it motivationcorp.#gamification#ramp http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103518/motivationcorp …Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@avantgame@ibogost Better perhaps for game design not being associated with it, continued bad for the clients to whom it is sold.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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