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    1. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      When I started seeing and hearing the word Latinx in the U.S., it felt familiar. I was curious at the way the -x had crossed a linguistic border and traveled its way north.

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    2. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      I work in media, and not all publications accept Latinx. I strive to use it when I can/am allowed to do so. Outside of publications, I sometimes fail to use it in my personal life. When I do, I revert to Latino.

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    3. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      I've internalized Latino, even though I consciously know it erases me. Language is really deep in that way.

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    4. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      In the last year or so, a lot of Latino men have very visibly revolted against the term Latinx. These men, who are all from the U.S., explain that *they* don't feel the term represents them. Oh the irony.

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    5. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      These same Latino men, who never once raised concern over the fact that Latina women like me are made invisible by the word Latino, suddenly feel invisible. Tuh.

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    6. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      Notice, by the way, that I still refer to myself as Latina. That's because I individually identify as Latina. When I'm in a group, I identify that group as Latinx. Individually, I'm an amiga. My friends? We're amigxs.

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    7. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      I never perceived Latinx as a threat, the way I think many Latino men do. I get it, in some ways. Latino men are hated in society in so many ways. So you gotta hang on to what you got.

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    8. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      Nor did I ever presume Latinx to be some kind of imperialistic neologism that we're imposing on older, poorer, and less educated people.

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    9. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      Again: the person who explained amigxs to me what seems like forever ago was my elder. Poor in a way most of you will never understand poverty, and less educated as in never finished grade school. They got it. They taught me.

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    10. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      Plus, this is a Guarani elder we're talking about. They reminded me that Spanish is an imperialist language; that we should challenge our allegiance to its purity.

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      Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017

      More than anything else, I'd like those of you who don't speak Spanish and are not Latinx to know that many of us do use the word. We're still working some of this out among ourselves, but in the meantime, we welcome you using the word.

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        2. Laskar Cinta‏ @klhull143 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          ¡Gracias! Pues, estoy aprendiendo el español. ¿Se dice los o las Latinxs; o se puede decir lxs Latinxs? Pues, el autocorrecto a cambiado "Latinxs" à "Latinos. ¡Que macho! :(

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        3. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @klhull143

          Es español, la x se suele pronunciar como “e” en estas palabras; sería “les la-teen-es.” Y no se capitaliza ;)

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        4. Laskar Cinta‏ @klhull143 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          ¡Gracias! ¿Se escribe lxs o les?

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        5. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @klhull143

          He visto les y lxs....

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        2. Kay, Agent of G.I.R.L‏ @KTildenFrost 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          Thank you for this thread. Is it pronounced like "ex" at the end? Lateen-ex? I tend to read it rather than say it, so I hope it's okay to ask. <3

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        3. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @KTildenFrost

          In answer to your question: I personally pronounce it la-teen-ex, but there are also other ways, and I think we're still working it out. Going to RT your tweet with more comment, too.

          2 replies 0 retweets 28 likes
        4. Kay, Agent of G.I.R.L‏ @KTildenFrost 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          Thank you. <3

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        2. Roberto Peña-Glez‏ @Roberto_M_Pena 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          You make a great case for Latinx. Though, in my experience, especially with my grandparents, tias, and most older members of my community, the word, meant to include everyone, is radically exclusionary, and makes older generations feel incredibly left out.

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        3. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Roberto_M_Pena

          That's fair. I've found that talking about inclusion, especially with family and friends who've been excluded in a broader sense, is really helpful here.

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        2. kreimermeme‏ @evilserkets 21 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          super interesting thread and i didn't know that it existed outside of us-based communities ten years ago. i still prefer the up-and-coming latine/amigue/niñe because the pronunciation is more intuitive and because of my own country's history with us imperialism and english.

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        3. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 21 Dec 2017
          Replying to @evilserkets

          I hear that! The e makes sense and is already employed in words like “doctores.” I do think that there are potential limits with e as well; “padres” comes to mind, for example.

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        4. El 💙‏ @El_nobihero 21 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado @evilserkets

          Yo utilizo la x para las palabras que ya tienen la 'e' integrada y la 'e' para todo lo demás. En el caso de padres/madres hay algunas sugerencias como 'xadres', así con muchos otros terminos. El problema con la la x es que no es inclusiva con les ciegues. Gracias por esto.

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        2. Andreas Klinger  ✌️‏Verified account @andreasklinger 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          Ok this might be a stupid Q but how do you pronounce eg latinxs or amigxs in spanish? (learned spanish only in school) would it be latin-ch-s?

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        3. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @andreasklinger

          Aura Bogado Retweeted Aura Bogado

          Those are really good questions! I think I answer it here: https://twitter.com/aurabogado/status/943603284236845056 … and here:https://twitter.com/aurabogado/status/943594104113446913 …

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          Most people pronounce it la-teen-ecks. There's also la-teen-eh-keys, and la-teen-ehs. I say the former, but I think it's something we're still working out :) https://twitter.com/ItsRoyBTW/status/943589725335465984 …
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        2. Malka Older‏ @m_older 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          How do you feel about amig@s etc? I saw that before I saw amigxs (maybe it was more popular in Spain, where I happened to be traveling? not sure) and it has stuck with me, but I don't know how others feel

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        3. Aura Bogado‏Verified account @aurabogado 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @m_older

          I’m just ok with it, personally. I think there were always pronounciation challenges with it, and it never seemed to address gender nonconforming people....

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Malka Older‏ @m_older 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          good point, thanks for answering!

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        2. Elizabeth King‏ @ekingc 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          When I lived in Buenos Aires I heard and saw “Latinx,” and also sometimes heard people use “e” in place of “o” or “a” at the end of gendered words. Eg “nosotres”

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        2. Jose L‏ @final_station 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @aurabogado

          Latino when used in plural or any plural word like Mexicanos is genderless already. It’s just that people don’t seem to know that in the states. Spanish has a supreme authority in the Real Academia and according to their rules it is without gender.

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        3. ⎛⎝☆JayeCat☆⎠⎞⚧ ❄‏ @JayeTweet 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @final_station @aurabogado

          it's just as genderless as it is in english to use 'guys' to refer to a group of mixed genders. IE it's NOT. It has a gender marker. You might view it as genderless because colloquially it's assumed to be, but.. ask the people you erase with it to hear a different story

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        4. Jose L‏ @final_station 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @JayeTweet @aurabogado

          Except guys is male in practice and plural pronouns in Spanish in practice for ages have been genderless. It’s a different language and culture. I don’t just view it but the authority of the language it selfs declares it.

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        5. ⎛⎝☆JayeCat☆⎠⎞⚧ ❄‏ @JayeTweet 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @final_station @aurabogado

          it's clear you didn't do the last step in my earlier tweet ps who exactly do you think makes those authority rules, hmm?

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        6. Jose L‏ @final_station 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @JayeTweet @aurabogado

          I care about my native tongue. I care about it’s anglonization. The RAE cares too.pic.twitter.com/aNMGeeOyZ5

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        7. ⛤☭ Aisling ☭⛧‏ @transfaerie 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @final_station @JayeTweet @aurabogado

          Mira coño, pero tu no leíste el resto del hilo donde se muestra claramente que no es una anglonisación sino una iniciativa ya antigua de nosotrxs mismxs? Los idiomas son descriptivos no preceptivos

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        8. Jose L‏ @final_station 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @transfaerie @JayeTweet @aurabogado

          Que tiene de malo el coño. Pinché sexista. Crees que puedes cambiar mentes insulatando a personas? No seas grocerx se dice idiomxs.

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        9. ⛤☭ Aisling ☭⛧‏ @transfaerie 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @final_station

          No es idiomxs porque no existe la palabra idiomos. La x (y la e) es para términos que se refieren a personas y tienen ya formas masculinas y femeninas. Es una versión neutra. Pero para que te lo explico si no querés entender, sólo trolear.

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