Instead of teaching students cyber-offense, we should teach them how to build defenses for how attackers don't actually compromise targets.
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@attritionorg@BsidesDC Different types of smart. Hard offense is like proving Fermat's last theorem. Hard defense is like moving a city. -
@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC right, but think about it. is there "hard offense"? yes, but so fucking rare it is silly.
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@attritionorg@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC not only is it harder, it's way more realistic - lot more jobs involving defense than attack -
@darkuncle@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC agree, but the 'sexy' jobs are all offense. that is 1997 thinking and wrong. -
@attritionorg@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC once people grow up they realize that "sexy" is somewhat less important than paying the bills reliably -
@darkuncle@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC that isn't it. trivial to make a good living on pentesting. problem? you ultimately help no one but self. -
@attritionorg@darkuncle@BsidesDC Problem with pen-testing is that you give your customers fish, not teach them how to fish themselves. -
@dinodaizovi@attritionorg@darkuncle@BsidesDC pen testing could be more beneficial to defend, but what gets measured needs changing. -
@dinodaizovi@attritionorg@darkuncle@BsidesDC measure delay time. Measure detect rate and time. Measure reporting and response rate & time
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@attritionorg:@dinodaizovi yes! a big theme in my upcoming@bsidesdc talk is "offense is easy, if you are so smart, try defense".” <- This -
@tvargasciodb@attritionorg@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC will your talk be available online l am interested in this line of thought -
@bigCmaz@tvargasciodb@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC assume directed at me. yes, my slides and/or text will be made avail shortly after.
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@attritionorg@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC Damn it, now I really want to be in DC. You have done the impossible.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@attritionorg@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC Why I play defense: offense plays against systems. Defense plays against offense.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@attritionorg@dinodaizovi@BsidesDC One thing along this line was for offense talks put a slide in that helps defenders know what to look 4Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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