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    Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013

    The Lesser of Two Weevs - http://bit.ly/WDmQho  (because you needed more commentary on it)

    10:44 AM - 19 Mar 2013
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    • Alex Kaasjager RCX Shane MacDougall richardo stallmanu SecTrend Reversing Jacque Rob McNelly Chris Campbell buherator Aris Adamantiadis ☠
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      2. Creeture @ Kiwicon‏ @CreetureNZ 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        Hey @attritionorg - good article. You nicely convey the difficulties of disclosure methods and the tensions between company & white/grey hat

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @CreetureNZ

        @CreetureNZ Appreciate it!

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      4. Creeture @ Kiwicon‏ @CreetureNZ 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg np. Have been reading the Dutch Responsible Disclosure policy so your piece made for sum good reflection

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @CreetureNZ

        @CreetureNZ haven't read that policy, link please? (cc @OSVDB)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Creeture @ Kiwicon‏ @CreetureNZ 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg will track down for u once home (am on train at mo)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @CreetureNZ

        @CreetureNZ excellent, appreciate it

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      8. Creeture @ Kiwicon‏ @CreetureNZ 20 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg you can download the english version here: https://www.ncsc.nl/english/current-topics/news/responsible-disclosure-guideline.html … #disclosure

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 20 Mar 2013
        Replying to @CreetureNZ

        @CreetureNZ Interesting document, thanks.

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      10. End of conversation
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      2. Zate‏ @zate 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg if you find a vuln and maliciously exploit it to post the results online to do damage, you end up with another set.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @zate

        @zate unconfirmed, but apparently you may have to pay $99 a year to be part of the network that allows you to report bugs to AT&T

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Zate‏ @zate 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg i agree that on the surface at most basic find vuln, get 41 months is bad. .. how ever its not that simple.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @zate

        @zate it isn't that simple, but for all the wrong reasons.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Zate‏ @zate 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg certainly puts bug bounty programs in strange place.. do you chance it for the money?

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. End of conversation
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      2. Zate‏ @zate 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg if you find a vuln, disclose and report it appropriately you end up with one set of consequences.

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      3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @zate

        @zate no, you do not. sometimes you end up with a fixed vuln. sometimes you end up with vulnerable customers for 5+ years.

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      4. End of conversation
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      2. Zate‏ @zate 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg i think there is a difference between finding a vuln and exploiting a vuln for $/lulz/what ever. attitude is important.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @zate

        @zate attitude is, but ultimately, what is the real damage done? especially as compared to the other cases cited.

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      4. End of conversation
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      2. Nick Owen‏ @wikidsystems 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg I agree, except the Steubenville rapists are minors. I think that should be noted. It's not apple-apples.

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      3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @wikidsystems

        @wikidsystems This whole "18" thing is an arbitrary line for defining a minor in today's society. What teenager thinks rape is OK?

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      4. Nick Owen‏ @wikidsystems 19 Mar 2013
        Replying to @attritionorg

        @attritionorg to me the problem with the law is that the required minimum sentences eliminate judicial discretion.

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      5. End of conversation

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