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    1. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013

      Defining the qualities of cyber warfare - SC Magazine http://j.mp/10wKMS7  < cc:@attritionorg and @joshcorman Some good info here for you

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    2. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
      Replying to @jeffreycarr

      @jeffreycarr Nothing new to the discussions @joshcorman and I have had really.

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    3. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
      Replying to @attritionorg

      @attritionorg @joshcorman Cool. I just looked at your slides then read his article and thought you could use it to help refine your deck.

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    4. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
      Replying to @jeffreycarr

      @jeffreycarr @joshcorman Several things in the article we already outline/argue. He disagrees a bit in one area, but semantics really.

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    5. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
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      @attritionorg @joshcorman For example, current military use of cyber in Iraq/Afghanistan should be defined separately.

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    6. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
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      @jeffreycarr @joshcorman We largely argue that while it may be a 5th domain, it augments the others as much as anything.

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    7. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
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      @attritionorg @joshcorman And acts of cyber espionage aren't examples of warfare at all.

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    8. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
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      @jeffreycarr @joshcorman We argue it may be a prelude to war. Depending on definition, cyberwar is always happening potentially

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    9. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
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      @attritionorg @joshcorman Yes, I agree. It is certainly a prelude to war (preparation of the battlespace, etc.) but it's not cyberwar.

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      Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
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      @jeffreycarr @joshcorman again, goes back to who's definition you use. our point is elements of CW are already happening regardless

      1:04 PM - 11 Mar 2013
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        2. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
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          @attritionorg @joshcorman The LOAC specifically rules out espionage as warfare so I'm not sure what you're referring to.

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        3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
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          @jeffreycarr @joshcorman Common definitions of cyberwar. Elements of them, are/have been happening for ages (on and offline)

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        4. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
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          @attritionorg @joshcorman Yes, but when speaking about actual terms with legal standing, I think we should be more particular.

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        5. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
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          @jeffreycarr @joshcorman Legal standing where? =) Certainly not to every country, or group that can engage in elements of 'CyberWar'

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        6. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
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          @attritionorg @joshcorman The LOAC and related international legal regimes.

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        7. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
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          @jeffreycarr @joshcorman Right, which do not incorporate the entire world, or ALL of the players at the table.

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        8. Jeffrey Carr‏ @jeffreycarr 11 Mar 2013
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          @attritionorg @joshcorman True. Just the nation states.

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        9. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 11 Mar 2013
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          @jeffreycarr @joshcorman And just certain groups/bodies in those nation states. Don't forget the guerrilla warfare element.

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