@ygjb Not saying give up, just admit it is a lost cause and profitable until the inevitable crash-and-burn.
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@attritionorg I am a well paid optimist who is willing to lose trying to do the right thing, not sure I have anything else to add ;) -
@ygjb I'm arguing, it is lost. Not only lost, but the current security model has *definitively* lost. -
@attritionorg Sure, but does that mean we keep trying to make things better? How will we figure it out if we stop trying new things? -
@ygjb Show me a "new thing" in security the last 10 years. I mean, truly new. No variations on old ideas. -
@attritionorg I already agreed that it is hard, and agreed that things are going to continue to get worse. What do you suggest? -
@ygjb If I get people to admit it is a lost cause, only then do I start spewing my radical and crazy ideas to fix it! -
@attritionorg If you have ideas, let me help you find people to work on them!
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