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    1. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @sawaba

      @sawaba @sec_prof Call me a skeptic, that a 'secure' org out there is barely 50% compliant, and a pentester of my choice can't get cards

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @attritionorg

      @attritionorg @sec_prof Can you be secure without disabling an admin's ability to turn off their personal firewall?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @sawaba

      @sawaba @sec_prof Pretty sure you can't prove that via Twitter unfortunately.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @attritionorg

      @attritionorg @sec_prof Sure I can. I need 89 more tweets though. Point is, the PCI prescription for security != all possible solutions

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @sawaba

      @sawaba @sec_prof No, you are just proving PCI != security, which we established. Not proving the 'secure' thing above and beyond.

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    6. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @attritionorg

      @attritionorg @sec_prof No, my point is that PCI != Security AND Security != PCI. Both directions is true.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @sawaba

      @sawaba I'll agree with that, you cited some good examples. Now, we can disagree on a solid pentester.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @attritionorg

      @attritionorg Really? You think our definition of a good pentester would be that different?

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    9. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @sawaba

      @sawaba It must be. Ones I have talked to for *years* have basically had a 100% success rate on pentests that were scoped decently.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @attritionorg

      @attritionorg It depends on what we call success. If you gain access to a system, but couldn't get CCNs (the goal), did you succeed?

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      Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 1 Sep 2012
      Replying to @sawaba

      @sawaba Never heard of that happening. Testers I know have popped card data on "PCI certified" systems every time they tried.

      6:40 PM - 1 Sep 2012
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        2. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @attritionorg

          @attritionorg I've been able to get local (non root) account, but then couldn't do crap because it was so locked down. Layers.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Hoff‏ @Beaker 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @sawaba

          I have to say, @sawaba that my experience aligns with @attritionorg. I know pentesters w/100% success rate in extracting CCD. Skill matters

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        4. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @Beaker

          @beaker @attritionorg I'm not the best pentester out there, but I can recognize where a greater or theoretical skillset could go further.

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        5. Hoff‏ @Beaker 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @sawaba

          @sawaba @attritionorg ...and that wasn't meant to suggest you weren't skilled, btw, but that certain folks really are elite at what they do

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        6. caseyjohnellis‏Verified account @caseyjohnellis 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @Beaker

          @Beaker @sawaba @attritionorg 100% compliant means absolutely nothing endgame-wise to a really good attacker/pentester with enough time

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        1. Adrian Sanabria‏ @sawaba 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @attritionorg

          @attritionorg That's not my personal experience at all, especially with retail.

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