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    1. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 31 Aug 2012

      @attritionorg Scope is not about security, it is about getting to the point where you can do something practical

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      Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 31 Aug 2012
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      @sec_prof PCI is not about security, it is about getting to the point where you aren't liable.

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        2. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 31 Aug 2012
          Replying to @attritionorg

          @attritionorg Yep agreed. But Then so is SOX, HIPAA, etc. Something you have to do, only other option is not accept payment

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        3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 31 Aug 2012
          Replying to @sec_prof

          @sec_prof I understand why PCI compliant. Just wish every single company admitted that is the reason. Not because it adds real security.

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        4. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 31 Aug 2012
          Replying to @attritionorg

          @attritionorg To that we totally agree. Most do it because they have to, and to check the box

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        2. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 31 Aug 2012
          Replying to @attritionorg

          @attritionorg the focus of the paper is consistent scoping decisions. It has nothing to do with security per se.

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        3. Sciuridae Hero‏ @attritionorg 31 Aug 2012
          Replying to @sec_prof

          @sec_prof Once again. PCI scope is always, 100% of the time, considerably smaller than an attacker's scope.

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        4. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 31 Aug 2012
          Replying to @attritionorg

          @attritionorg I disagree. If the PAN is the target, then any system an attacker would go after would fall into scope. Hard to explain in 140

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        2. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @attritionorg

          @attritionorg @darkuncle agreed, but I am saying InfoSec can use PCI as a tool to implement "reasonable defense" /cc@hrbrmstr

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        3. JadedSecurity‏ @jadedsecurity 1 Sep 2012
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          @sec_prof @attritionorg @darkuncle very rarely. I just did a saq and built a new PCI environment. I built it with a mindset of a pentestr

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        4. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @jadedsecurity

          @jadedsecurity I am in similar boat. I am full public cloud though. Did a blog on it.

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        5. JadedSecurity‏ @jadedsecurity 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @sec_prof

          @sec_prof I saw it. I'm not sure public cloud is still a good idea as card is in memory at one point

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        6. Phil Cox‏ @sec_prof 1 Sep 2012
          Replying to @jadedsecurity

          @jadedsecurity public cloud was only option. We do not own servers. We are "all in" when it comes to public cloud.

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        7. JadedSecurity‏ @jadedsecurity 1 Sep 2012
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          @sec_prof which is fine as long as you are heavy in application controls or dedicated hosted systems

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        1. Wade Roberts‏ @incorrect 1 Sep 2012
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          @attritionorg @sec_prof @darkuncle corporate culture documented.

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        1. jkouns‏ @jkouns 31 Aug 2012
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          @attritionorg @sec_prof even if you are PCI complaint you are still liable for lots of 1st party costs, ie: notification, replace CCs, etc

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