You're wrong about it only being about the high end that genes trump practice. Genes trump practice even and especially in the beginning of a craft.
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That early advantage drops off quick and too many people use it as an excuse.
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It doesn't. It compounds. Quicker learning doesn't stop after the beginning. You learn everything quicker.
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Are you associating quicker learning with genetic advantages? My experience has shown these two aren't necessarily related. Genes definitely get you to a starting point that's farther than others but knowing how to learn and practice can outpace that.
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I'm not denying its existence, I just don't think it should be a significant consideration until the higher levels. Greatness can be achieved without a genetic advantage. To be the #1 in your field may be another story.
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I’m not debating whether greatness can be achieved. That depends what qualifies as greatness. Which itself has an IQ floor as far as I’m concerned.
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But furthermore, quicker learning helps at every stage. It doesn’t stop being an advantage. Every practice requires tons of quick adjustment, the ability to know when to avoid repeating mistakes, adaptability. And more importantly the time preference that is associated with IQ.
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Gotcha. I don't think I ever said anything to contradict that unless one thinks a growth mindset is fixed and innate. I've been around people with natural aptitudes that are low in a growth mindset with high time preference that may almost be a direct result of that aptitude.
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@SamHarrisOrg did a great podcast on this subject with Coleman Hughes , it addressed some very touchy issues in a well spoken conversationhttps://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/waking-up-with-sam-harris/id733163012?mt=2&i=1000416819550 … -
I actually just started listening to this today.
@coldxman is brilliant.
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Don't worry, I've been sent this exact article 10k times.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks … It's been examined. Anarchist / communist analysis exist too. "Rather than to go to the bottom of any given idea, most people will either condem it alltogether, or rely on some superficial or perjudicial definition of non-essentials"
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But something tells me you get paid to shill reactionary dogshtii and aren't actually interested in understanding leftist thought. Ironically, there's a lot in those Anarchist tomes about serving capital.
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Asians are not included in the leftist narrative of victimhood. They work too hard and have strong family continuity.....ergo they raise the bar and make others look kinda bad. They get trophys for winning, and not for just showing up. Anathema for leftists.
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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IMHO, it's because Asians themselves don't really make it an issue as other minorities do. If they vocalized frustrations, it would be... I think
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Completely agree. For the most part asians know what it takes to get succeed, part of which is ignoring distractions.
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Thanks, Adam. I do think it's a bit of both -- hatred against Asians & people who think it's the empathic thing to do
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Asians tend to “hate” each other as well: Chinese vs Indians, Punjabis vs Hindoos, Chinese vs Japanese, Chinese vs Uyghurs, Burmese vs Rohingyas, ... I can go on

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Oh yea, there’s a “hierarchy of Asians”, darker ones are lower class. Namely because dark skinned associated with manual labor.
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I know. I’m one of the darker ones. Especially Chinese are pretty racist towards barbarians like me

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Don’t worry, those of us too far south know the struggle.

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Debra even bleaches her hair, I notice
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