Nailing my colors to the mast: SIGINT is something I want my govt doing. SIGINT on nationals of my country absent warrants I don't want.
.@bungdan SIGINT on every non-US national absent warrants, reasons or due process?
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@asteris What's the question? Foreigners don't get due process when it comes to data collection. That's what sets the US apart historically. -
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@bungdan whether you recognize privacy rights only to Americans, if you think it's ok to classify all non-Americans as potential terrorists -
@asteris I don't follow. I assume nation's behave as expansively as they can beyond the limits set by their sovereigns. That's about it. -
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@bungdan do you hold human rights to apply to all humans or just Americans? I think it's a simple question, given your framing just now -
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@asteris "human rights" an interesting topic. Not one i equate with the NSA listening to Merkel's meaningless phone banter. -
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@bungdan I'm not talking about Merkel. Germany is shopping its' citizens data to the US. I think you understand the difference
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@asteris (lest you misunderstand, our tradition - frayed as it is - of giving special protections to citizens is the unusual bit). -
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@bungdan there's a tradition to old diplomacy, states do not target non-hostile foreign nationals. When they do, it's usually casus belli -
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@asteris I'm delighted the US was spying on Germany and Japan in the 1930s. In fact, I wish we'd spied more. There is no such tradition. -
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@bungdan the US was spying on states, not every German & Japanese citizen. That's a new capability, which noone should accept as granted
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