Since when it became espionage norm that the US & UK can engage in massive surveillance of sovereign states' citizens?
@paulmwatson no ethical justification whatsoever; it's an arms race targeting every single one of us, and we're entitled to fight back
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@asteris agreed, liberty before safety. Safety is tyranny. -
@paulmwatson it's a false dilemma. You can't have safety without liberty -
@asteris agreed, but our elected leaders and the majority seem to think differently. FUD. Trillion dollar budgets.
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