@Cole69361910 @emlynaddison @ViveCharIie @Prolient @louididdy @JihadistJoe my point is simple; drop it if its offensive
@HPluckrose I don't disagree at all with what radical Islam represents, but we're burning down the whole forest to deny the weeds.
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@emlynaddison As soon as we start saying we must moderate the way we express views of any ideology, we give it the power to censor us.
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@HPluckrose Nobody is advocating censorship, Helen; I'm advocating for SELF-censorship on the grounds that we'll be more constructive. -
@emlynaddison I'm sure we all practice this. I don't speak the same way to a moderate, liberal Muslim as I do to one threatening to kill me.
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@HPluckrose Yet those same cartoon offend ALL Muslims. How do we reconcile that fact? We're not adolescents, we're adults. -
@emlynaddison Also Muslims have no more right not to be offended by others views of their religion than I have Islam's view of atheists.
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@HPluckrose of tweaking some group's nose. Free speech is PRIVILEGE and this shit blackens it. -
@emlynaddison No, its a right and I defend it. Most of my blogs attack Christianity. No1 cares. Ex-Muslims simply can't. Think of them.
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@HPluckrose I consider it a privilege. Because we routinely overplay our 'rights' and take them for granted pulling stupid stunts like this. - 4 more replies
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@emlynaddison I defend the right of Islamists to say things that offend me & the right of cartoonists to draw things that offend Muslims.
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@HPluckrose would very likely be shut down on grounds of indecency--whether or not it met legal standards of free speech. -
@emlynaddison Then that wld be a hypocrisy we'd need to address.Itd be an excellent idea to try it. Highlight the imbalance ur concerned abt
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@HPluckrose No. It's my contention that we're no better than the WBC--and THAT is hardly anything to aspire to, nor to be proud of. -
@emlynaddison If WBC were drawing pictures.
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@HPluckrose Nonsense; it would be a mistake to think that this is ANY DIFFERENT. You guys are kidding yourselves. -
@emlynaddison They shouted and waved banners and said everyone was going to Hell much like WBC. Distasteful but still free speech.
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@HPluckrose I don't disagree.
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@emlynaddison There isn't a whole forest. Many different values & positions including Muslims & ex-Muslims who support free expression
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@HPluckrose Then why do we not stage elaborate contests of burka-less, smoking, car-driving women? Why always cartoons of a prophet? Hmm -
@emlynaddison We depict burka-less, smoking, car-driving women all the time. No death threats. No burning embassies. That's the problem.
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@emlynaddison If depicting women like this caused death threats, people wld be doing it. See femen.
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@HPluckrose And that's JUST IT! We use cartoons of Muhammed BECAUSE we KNOW it OFFENDS them. How is that FURTHERING free speech?! -
@emlynaddison Because some say "You can't do that." That cannot be accepted.
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@HPluckrose Fair enough! Form a response! But what is this cartoon bullshit in aid of? Making us feel better while embittering others??
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